Today's USA Today (July 22), Page 5b

[xanderman]

I suspect USAPA isn't telling the whole truth for a couple of reasons. One, they have a documented history of being less than truthful, and, two one has to ask why this is an issue all of a sudden. We operate the same airplanes under the same procedures out west and I have not heard more than the occasional "so-there-I-was" regarding the company pushing us to take flights. Does it happen? Sure! Where I think this particular case went south was when Mrs. Capt decided she was going to inform the pax and anyone else around that LCC is an unsafe airline. Did she really do this? I can't say. I was not there. However considering what I said above about flying in the same environment with the same airplanes one should wonder why this appears to be only an east problem. And frankly I have NEVER heard of ANY company escorting any pilot from a terminal. Why would the company want to create a public show in front of the very pax they hope return for future patronage? Obviously emotions ran high. The question has nothing to do with the why or why not the company is or isn't pro safety. The question is how did this particular Capt bring so much heat down on herself. I am inclined to believe that USAPA and their minions are fabricating or at least dramatizing everyday issues to make their point. Well USAPA followers this is the bed you made. Now you get to sleep in it.

 

[charlie2]

She told the pax that LCC is unsafe...you can't name your source can you? The posts on this forum that interest me are the ones that post a link for something more than your diatribe. Is your position that 280 pax sat there with no cameras and listened to this...REALLY!

 

[charlie2]

USAIR East pilots painted themselves into this corner thru ALPA and USAPA, nobody else!!! You are only as good as your leadership and it is sad and funny to watch them blame everyone but themselves for their path. AWA was no dream if you think we had big image of ourselves, just like I thought the US ARMY was not the top of the military food chain while serving, but we made the best of what we could get with a majority going along. USAPA leadership is run by almost 90% ex-ALPA FPL w************************* and are leading the lemmings(That's you) off the cliff. Wake up and get some real leadership and legal counsel before it is too late. West pilots are just on the side lines as Parker and Co. battle USAPA over this fake safety drive.


Mark

Thank you for your service Mark even if you were dissatisfied by it. I didn't like my choices for President of the United States either but we're stuck with one of them...for now. I know some of my reps personally and they are good peeps working hard...others maybe not so but that is the nature of the beast. Long after I'm dead things will be the same and you will never see a group of elected people who will always agree with exactly what you want Mr. Speaker Boehner... I mean Mark!

 

[xanderman]

She told the pax that LCC is unsafe...you can't name your source can you? The posts on this forum that interest me are the ones that post a link for something more than your diatribe. Is your position that 280 pax sat there with no cameras and listened to this...REALLY!

Read my entire post Charlie! You'll find the answer to your question. But aside from that, using your logic can you tell me that she didn't? Ask yourself why this blew up? NEVER has any issue like this (happens fairly regularly btw/Capt's refusing airplanes) ever resulted in being escorted out of the terminal. How come this one did?

Looking forward to your answer...

 

[Dornier 335]

My family won't be on a USAIR jet anytime soon. I find it hard to believe that your union would buy an ad like that and not be factual.

I said I find it hard to believe that a union would put out an ad that inflammatory w/o there being some merit to the discussion. Mind you I am not particularly a union advocate. But, until USAIR mgt puts out their side, I will stick with my view point.
Sounds like you do KNOW all the facts. Put 'em out here.

No, I don't have all the facts. Never claimed I did, or that I knew the entire story. But I do have a problem with your "My family won't be on a USAIR jet anytime soon" argument. I can turn things around and cite certain incidents at SWA and also claim to never put my family on any of your jets. Or I could even lower myself more and start an Airbus versus Boeing argument. Take it a step further and make it a in-house union versus ALPA (with epic fail ) argument, etc. All this takes us back to our humble beginnings where as 6 year olds we would measure ourselves in the locker room claiming that mine's bigger then yours. Which is what flightinfo (sigh) and this industry is about.