Tittyjets comments on Colgan

[727RedTails]

First of all, I usually am just a casual observer to this forum, however, I find tittyjets comments on Colgan uncalled for. I would respectfully disagree. I flew for ACA, Northwest, Colgan and Pinnacle. I can tell you that there were things about Colgan that were better than all the others including Northwest.

For example, on one trip I misread my schedule and thought I was suppose to finish in PVD however the Colgans needed me to repo to HYA on a Sat. evening. I was just going to hop SWA home. When I told Colgan they had a cab waiting for me in HYA to drive to BOS and positive spaced me to FLL. Do you really think ACA or Pinnacle would do that. They are a family run business but they always treated me with respect and believe it or not it was one of my favorite times in Part 121.

Tittyjet, lets talk about your personal experience at Colgan or knowing what I know about it I would imagine you wouldn't want me to.

To Scott I will miss you.

 

[tittyjet]

Red:

Check your PMs. As I said there, I will be more than happy to discuss with you anything you would like about any experiences that you think that I may have had with Colgan Air. But first, you might want to remember that my opinions are just that -- my opinions. The people who read this forum can take them for whatever they feel they're worth. To be quite forthright, most probably do not feel that they're worth very much, but I will have to say that I have received several emails and PMs from others who have thanked me for being so frank in my posts.

Let it be noted that I don't think that the Colgans are all the devils children, who sit around in their spare time and think of ways to manipulate and screw with employees. I do think, however, that they are business people who put themselves first -- many times to the detriment and personal expense of their employees. You must agree that morale there is usually pretty low among the pilot, mechanic, and flight attendeant groups.

As we discussed the other day in ops, you had a much more positive experience at Colgan than I, and I am truly glad for that; some corporate cultures just do not match certain personalities, and the Colgan culture was obviously much more suited to yours than mine, but please do not villafy me for speaking an opinion that many share, but few are jackass enough to express in a public forum.

I agree that the Colgans are doing many things right in the aftermath of this horrible, unspeakable tragedy, and we will just have to sit back, wait, and see if they will do what is truly right after the spotlight fades and the litigation begins. I pray for these families that they will.

Respectfully,
Titty

 

[727RedTails]

And you think the morale is any better at Pinnacle?

 

[WrightAvia]

...doe not give you the right to threaten him with his identity.

Did you mean 'doe' as in female deer, or 'D.O.E.' as in Department Of Energy?

 

[WrightAvia]

All the things that go on, and thats all you got?

All the things that go on?

Hey, chill out...It's not a bad thing, if you hear voices in your head. It's not even bad if you talk back to them or answer them. It's only a bad thing when you are talking to those voices in your head, if you go "Say WHAT?!" a lot.

 

[727RedTails]

Les, I said I was a casual OBSERVER not casual user

OB-SER-VER 1.one that observers.


These are just some of the quotations from Tittyjets posts:

Colgans -- do the right thing......
....you've got to be f-ing kidding me.

I'll tell you who to stay away from there:

1.) Anyone with the last, or maiden, name Colgan, with the exception of Mikee. If he didn't look so much like his father and grandfather, I'd swear to you he's adopted.

2.) The chief pilot and his assistant. I don't know how she gets through security with that knife she'll inevitably stab you in the back with, but she does.

3.) The head of scheduling -- he's the Webster's definition of jackass personified.

I'm willing to bet you they won't pay those salaries because first of all, remember, we are talking about the Colgans and this IS money

I have been reading for several months comments from Tittyjet about how bad Colgan was. I never used his name nor would I, but I think Colgan was generous with him.

 

[tittyjet]

Les:

Nice guitars...wish I knew how to play one. With my good looks and voice, I'd surely be a star!

Thanks for the back up. I agree with you that what I said wasn't so offensive (except to, maybe, a Colgan). I do have to say, however that Red is a good guy, and I know that he probably didn't clarify his position quite as well as he'd like. I know for a fact that he wouldn't try to sell me out in a public forum, besides there is nothing for which he could sell me out. Please don't think poorly of him, for I certainly don't. I respect him and his right to vociferously disagree with me; it makes for healthy debate.

I will say -- for the record -- that the Colgans did, in a certain situation, treat me fairly. That being said, there was a nice financial incentive for the company to do so. However, me and many of my friends have been treated poorly by the company on numerous occaisions and one positive step does not a mends make.

Red was a good employee of Colgan, he is a good employee of Pinnacle, and I consider him to be a good guy (even though he is a bit misguided sometimes ). Hell, I even hear he's a good pilot.

 

[chperplt]

Why don't we all just hug

 

[Snakum]

Les Pauls ARE the great guitars of our day.

Blasphemy!

Minh
(60's Gretsch Nashville!)

 

[727RedTails]

Guys,

My original comment was to say that Colgan was not all that bad. They did treat Tiityjet fairly in a certain situation and that is what I was hinting at in my post.

I don't want to take away his right to his opinion. God knows thats our god given right as pilots to complain. Look Colgan is an airline and our view of fair as pilots vs. what an airline thinks is fair will always clash in some situations. I would venture to say this is true at all airlines. I just want it known that they always treated me good and I have no complaints of my time there.

Now its time for some football.

 

[chperplt]

727

When did you work at Colgan?

 

[ERAU_Girl]

Can't we all just get along?

I understand Colgan may not necissarily be the best company to work for, but hell do ya'll really need to argue about how bad it sucks?? No company in any industry is perfect, but hell at least you have a job...

 

[tittyjet]

OK, OK......

.... i have not meant to piss off, or to offend any of the Colgan pilots. I have said before, and I will say again that they are some of the most professional, nicest, and gracious people with whom I have ever been associated. If I have pissed or offended any of you, I am truly sorry.

Any remarks that I have made on this forum regarding Colgan have been aimed at the mgmt, NOT the pilot group. Tony Soprano, you're right, the company did rehire me; they had a specific, vested financial interest in doing so which I am obliged not to go into in this public forum -- I addressed this in my PM to you.

As I have said before, I really am saddened by the death of these guys. My point all along has been that I just want the families to realize that, as ANY company would do in such a situation, management will do all they can to mitigate their losses. It's just a harsh, crappy reality of business. I know that I haven't accomplished this objective in the most delicate manner, but, as some of you know, an abundance of tact is not one of my virtues; I can see how one would think that I could have handled this differently.

I really don't know what else to say, other than in the interest of not upsetting these already grieving people, I'm going to give it a rest.

Out.

 

[Flyairjason]

Dateline, 04 September, 2003
(Teletype noise in the background)
"Tittyjet was found dead this morning in what appears to be a freak Jepp Binder accident. When questioned by police, Tony Soprano, a "peson of interest" declared he has nothing to do with this and uses only NOS products. Now, for the weather..."

 

[banned username 1]

Why, as a matter of fact, even I worked at Colgan for several years, those were for the most part, good times.

 

[flyin4jsus]

Hey guys from Colgan! I was just wondering if you guys had a colgan forum page by any chance? Like the TSALounge or ACAForum? I just have a couple of questions? Do you guys really enjoy working at Colgan Air beside the point of Tittyjet I know what he thinks. Like what are the pros & cons. I know every airline has the pros and cons we even had it at Atlantic Coast but over all it was a great place to work. Thanks guys!

____________________
P.S. Remember why we fly because we love it and keep reaching for the stars.

 

[climbhappy]

it is as good a place to work as one makes their mind up for it to be...cause if i'm here and not there, i really have only one choice and that is to make it pleasant or i risk being a burden to all those around me....so much for philosophy....

i have found this...if you fly your trip, show up on time and operate on time, i havn't heard a peep from anybody...that's all they expect, the minute you start whining like my seven year old daughter. you might as well have a target on your back.....

if I was not content to stay, i'd be and (i am) looking diligently for other work.

my personal dislike is the outstation basing and frequent base closures of which i have been a victim of.

we are entitled to our preferences. so let it be with everyone at colgan....

 

[flyin4jsus]

Hey climbhappy thanks for the advice. Same thing was at Atlantic Coast. I got along with everyone and mgmt. Cause I just did the job I was paid to do and did it happy and always tried to go above and beyond. I have a couple of friends at Colgan so I hope to be able to interview there one day. And bring my love for flying and my exprience to the table and see us soar above any other company.

 

[climbhappy]

flyin4jus,

if you've been furloughed fom ACA why wouldn'y you want to stay there. if you left volunteerily that's one thing. ACA has far greater prospects, in my view, even with the launch of their LCC brand than does colgan, which has limited resources and is managed very conservatively.

Some say that starting an airline is a big risk. they said it about jetblue. however jetblue had a good plan, and the most startup capital of any new venture. plus many tax breaks and incentives.

look at 'em now.

everyone knows turboprops aren't the future, so i argue that even with communities that want or need service, the cost of flying even a 19 seater in there has proven to be in most cases, not profitable. Some might argue otherwise, but without US AIRWAYS CODE SHARE, Colgan was just another multiplane Part 135 charter service. Nothing wrong with that! it's a matter of where you live, what your financial needs are etc.

the reality is colgan could be a permanent vacation for some if you were to be based somewhere like Bar Harbor, one of the most beautiful places i have seen.

 

[whosyodaddy]

I don't know what "tittyjet' wrote, but whatever it is as long as its not illegal, he has that right. The fact you know him, does not give you the right to threaten him with his identity

I think Red was saying that he will miss Steve... one of the pilots.