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I'll be specific Rez-0.

One thing that has got to go is the "fly it-then grieve it" mentality. If we had the power to stop some machines from moving instead of moving the metal and going begging later things would be fixed up front instead of arbitrated to a standstill six months or a year later.

I'll answer this one for you Rez. Belchfire's solution sounds very simple, and I'm sure it would go something like this: an airline violates the CBA in the opinion of the MEC of that airline. They then call for a suspension of service until the matter is resolved. The airline then sues the union and claims that they are in violation of the RLA. The judge sides with the company since they are clearly in violation of the RLA and issues an injunction against the union which effectively bankrupts said union. The pilots are then faced with the dilemma of being hit with a large assessment or declaring the union bankrupt and decertifying it.
Now the airline has pilots that either have no union, or owe so much on the assessment that they have absolutely no ability to effectively threaten a strike during any negotiations in the the near future.
The answer lies in amending the RLA through legislation. Legislation is voted on by Congress and signed by the President. The courts merely interpret current law. The current law assumes that both sides conduct themselves in a manner that ensures that the flying public can reasonably expect to get to their destination on any given day. In 20 of the last 28 years there have been Republican Presidents who have been afforded the privilege to name nominees to the federal bench as laid out in the constitution. The federal courts have moved to the right as a result and therefore away from the views of organized labor. It would be foolish for a union to expect any result other than being slapped with an injunction should they attempt to push the envelope of the RLA in any degree.
In my opinion, the biggest and most lasting power any President has is the ability to nominate judges to the federal bench. The SCOTUS nominees get the most press, but the federal courts below the SCOTUS have the biggest effect on our livelihoods.
 
UAW Example

In the latest Washington beat up on the auto industry, congress chided the auto industry for not being firm enough when dealing with the UAW. Congress said you gave them things you could not afford in the long run, you should have known better. The unions have done wonders for the auto industry. Every company should be allowed to prosper under the point of a gun. That is "Give us this or we are going to shut you, I don't care if you say you can not afford it, we want it now!"
 
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In the latest Washington beat up on the auto industry, congress chided the auto industry for not being firm enough when dealing with the UAW. Congress said you gave them things you could not afford in the long run, you should have known better. The unions have done wonders for the auto industry. Every company should be allowed to prosper under the point of a gun. That is "Give us this or we are going to shut you, I don't care if you say you can not afford it, we want it now!"


How does that work when Execs are raping the company coffers, living like fat cats and producing a poor product? Suddenly you want the unions to be altruistic to the very greed that is destroying their company. The workers want healthcare and retirement. Not a GV to jet around... we've gone over this so many times.....


In addition, that is the UAW.... it doesn't reflect what airline pilots gave back during the BK era. All while the fat cat execs paid themselves bonuses in the millions of dollars for using employees like ATMs, gutting pay 40% AND raping pensions....
 
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Fat Cats?

How does that work when Execs are raping the company coffers, living like fat cats and producing a poor product? Suddenly you want the unions to be altruistic to the very greed that is destroying their company. The workers want healthcare and retirement. Not a GV to jet around... we've gone over this so many times.....


In addition, that is the UAW.... it doesn't reflect what airline pilots gave back during the BK era. All while the fat cat execs paid themselves bonuses in the millions of dollars for using employees like ATMs, gutting pay 40% AND raping pensions....
Most fat cats live on less than most airline Captians make. Except they do get good deals on cars. Yes there some very highly paid exec at the top. The mangment gave into the unions to drive themselves into a non-competitive condition, now the chickens are coming home to roost. BTW 5 of the top 10 cars in the latest J D Powers survey were big three built.
 
Unions do have great influence

Same Ol. debate... you think the unions run the companies....
They do have great influence that affects how management goes about their conduct of business. From Joe White WSJ "...GM's leaders - and the UAW's- knew by the early 90's that he combination of rising health care costs and the longevity of the GM's retired workers threatened the company. But GM management backed away from confrontation with the UAW over health care in 1993 and in every national contract cycle afterwards until 2005 – when the company’s nearness to collapse finally became clear to everyone. In the 15 years from 1993 to 2008 GM had spent 103B on retiree health care" The evil management team that you seem to despise was actually guilty of being overly generous to their workers to point by destroying the company. Whose fault is that? BTW How about BO standing up to the NEA, calling for longer school years, longer school days,merit pay to reward really good teachers, and unlimited charter schools. There may be hope for the future of education in this counrty.
 
Not evil at all

[/size][/font][/size][/font]People wanting healthcare and retirement..... so evil.....
Not evil all, just not affordable at $103B over 15 years
 

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