Tiller on F/O's side?

[Dave Grohl]

Does anyone know which airliners have got a tiller on the F/O's side in addition to the captain. (Somebody mentioned the 777 is like this, but I've never been up front in one). What would be the purpose of this?...F/O's taxiing...my God, what's next, the captain doing the preflight? (First sign of the Apocalypse...)

Anyone..., Bueller?

 

[schafjet]

We fly some European 737 (Transavia) aircraft with the tiller on both sides. Oh, by the way, our Captains do the preflight when it's the F/O's leg. If you're wondering I work for Sun Country. Captains don't seem to mind doing the preflight, especially on the nice days. The end must be near.

 

[B-atch]

747's have F/O tillers and at Polar they actualy let the F/O taxi the aircraft...No Apocalypse yet...The 767 also has F/O tillers

 

[typhoonpilot]

At USAir I seem to recall that some of the F-28s had tillers on the F.O.'s side. I don't recall a specific procedure for it's use, some captain's would let you taxi if it had one and some wouldn't.

At Emirates we have tillers on both sides. The F.O. taxis when it is his leg and after the takeoff review has been completed. He isn't allowed to taxi into the gate or do 180 degree turns on the runway though. That is for the 777.


TP

 

[Flechas]

It's an union thing, if we get tillers the CAs want more money!

 

[Big Duke Six]

The Airbus 319'/318's (at F9 at least) all have FO tillers. Not sure if they are standard in all Airbii though.

 

[jknight8907]

I'm pretty sure they're standard in all Airbus versions. Seems like I've seen a picture of the tiller in just about all the varieties.

 

[FracCapt]

Wow....I never knew dual tillers were so common. Screw that...if I'm an FO, I don't want the extra responsibility of a tiller. Having two tillers seems like a waste, to me...but, apparently there was a demand for it, so of course the manufacturers did it. If I'm the FO, I'll make the Captain taxi....if I'm the Captain, I'll make the FO taxi..

 

[pitotstatic]

BAE 146/AVR 146 has factory mounted tillers on the FO side. NW payed to have them removed on the Avros at Mesaba.

Pitot

 

[FN FAL]

BAE 146/AVR 146 has factory mounted tillers on the FO side. NW payed to have them removed on the Avros at Mesaba.

Pitot

I always wondered what the story was on that...seems to me someone told me those were an available option on RJ85, I didn't know they came equiped and then were removed.

Any idea as to why they would do that pitot?

 

[fokkerjet]

It's an option on the Fokker 70's and 100's, but nobody in the US ordered it.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I'm pretty sure they're standard in all Airbus versions. Seems like I've seen a picture of the tiller in just about all the varieties.

A300's have an FO tiller, of that much I am certain.

 

[blingair]

F-27's also.

 

[jknight8907]

Wow....I never knew dual tillers were so common. Screw that...if I'm an FO, I don't want the extra responsibility of a tiller. Having two tillers seems like a waste, to me...but, apparently there was a demand for it, so of course the manufacturers did it. If I'm the FO, I'll make the Captain taxi....if I'm the Captain, I'll make the FO taxi..

For most US airlines, the FO is never allowed to steer. At 'one' airline, if the FO's tiller comes out of the center lock, it's logged and that FO gets a trip to a certain office.

 

[KigAir]

If the FO is the sole manipulator of the tiller, can they log the taxi time as PIC?

 

[4fanman]

BAE 146/AVR 146 has factory mounted tillers on the FO side. NW payed to have them removed on the Avros at Mesaba.

Pitot

More specifically, they simply removed the wheel itself and put on a plate to cover the hole. The system itself is still in place.

 

[Pilot877]

One of our DC-10's has an F/O tiller, it gets in the way of my drink holder, but it is good for hanging a hand mic on!

 

[9GClub]

For most US airlines, the FO is never allowed to steer. At 'one' airline, if the FO's tiller comes out of the center lock, it's logged and that FO gets a trip to a certain office.

Why aren't they allowed? Seems like they should get the practice..... not to mention the fact that driving is a bit more trivial than flying.

 

[FN FAL]

Why aren't they allowed? Seems like they should get the practice..... not to mention the fact that driving is a bit more trivial than flying.

Really? What if the airliner needs to make a tough right hand turn, who else would be in the best position to do it? The guy in the right seat?

 

[jknight8907]

I dunno.....I'll try and find the thread that concerned this topic...