through or around?

[scubabri]

How do you make a decision on what weather to fly through as apposed to around.

Lets take worse case, mountain terrain, non-radar environment, passengers on board, 19K cruise.

I know I need to take into consideration the pax comfort, and I'm pretty comfortable getting bumped around. So what criteria do ya'll use to make a decision?

thanks

b

PS.. each time I come back from a delivery trip in the King Airs, I got more questions. I suppose that's a good thing.

 

[SheGaveMeClap]

Non-radar environment at FL190? Huh?

 

[bart]

Lets see... if it doesn't look too bad, go through it, if it gets bad, turn around and go back out, if it does look bad, go around it. That simple rule applies to all altitudes and works in both a radar and non-radar environment. It also works in both hemispheres.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

"If it gets bad, turn around and go back out????"

there's some solid advice...!!!!

 

[scubabri]

reminds me of the movie "Better off Dead"

Here's the plan.. go down the hill, really fast... if something get's in your way... turn.

b

 

[FlyingSig]

I want my two dollars.

 

[tinman]

Great movie!

 

[KnowledgeSeeker]

PS.. each time I come back from a delivery trip in the King Airs, I got more questions. I suppose that's a good thing.

It is a great thing! It's good to always be asking questions. It's a sign of a truely great pilot

 

[labbats]

I just got done reading that some of the stronger turbulence actually lies OUTSIDE the stronger rain echos. So flying around cells may keep you drier, but not help otherwise. It's still an inexact science, I realize, but radar is made to keep you out of that area, not dodge cell to cell.
Also, you don't turn around in a thunderstorm because the hail can smash out your side windows and you may get lost and get stuck in there longer.
Granted, I'm still pretty **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** green, but I do believe what I read from more experienced pilots who write books.

 

[labbats]

What's up with this *censored* business?! I didn't cuss.

 

[stingray]

Turn back and land, and do one of 2 things
1. get an up-grade to a jet.
2. or wait the weather out on the ground.

#2 is porbably the first thing that will happen

 

[jergar999]

I have about 800 hours in King Airs now, and for the first time a few weeks ago, I had the pleasure of riding in the back of one. First of all, yaw damp is there for a reason. Anything you feel in the front is about half of what's going on behind the wing. Factor in the fact that you are accustomed to bumps, whereas passengers may not be. As far as weather goes, trust your instincts as to what is safe and what isn't. You can only fly the cockpit, not the cabin. Most King Airs (90/100/200) have a turbulent air penetration speed of about 170 knots (give or take a few). Slow to it (at FL190 in a King Air, you're probably indicating lower than that anyway) if necessary, disengage the autopilot if it's on and ride it out. Experience is really the key to knowing what you can handle, and even people I know with thousands of hours still find themselves surprised.

 

[KnowledgeSeeker]

Jergar-
You got a job at 200 hrs TT in a king air?? You lucky dog if that's true!

Your definitely right about the feeling in the back. The few times I have rode in the back in moderate turbulence it is definitely a swinging machine.