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Palmtree Pilot

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This is A$$inine!!

TRI-STATE CAREFLIGHT (King Air Captains)
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http://www.climbto350.com/asp/description.aspx?jobID=17690


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So the guy/gal got a multi engine PIC job @ 1000 hrs and a turboprop PIC job @ 2000 hrs!?!? I'm sorry, but I know J41 capt at TSA that meet one or two of the requirments and fly bigger planes with more pax. Some of these jobs that they advertise on these sites are a little off. Oh yah, 100 in type...... wouldn't you have to go thru training with a new company anyway?

What is this industry coming to?

You probably start @ 27K a year with six days not on call, hun!?

Just get tired of seeing these stupid time reqs.

Pt P
 
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Palmtree Pilot said:
You probably start @ 27K a year with six days not on call, hun!?

$50k. Don't know what the schedule is.
 
Palmtree Pilot said:
Just get tired of seeing these stupid time reqs.

Pt P


Essentially - I agree. The times for this position are out of line (unless the compensation is out of line, at the high end that is). Heck - I know guys with under 1000 flying those RJs around. Put one of those in the dirt and you'll affect the bottom line at a Legacy carrier. But put this King Air in the weeds and all you'll do is fuel America's fear of GA on the 3rd page of local newspapers. Doesn't make much sense. So you need those posted times for that? I don't think so. I saw their King Air in DRO this week. Might be fun to be based in DRO - if you're into the mountain thing (and experienced to fly up there as well). Ah Well...

AZT
 
I live in FMN, just south of DRO. Personally, I think DRO is one of the nicest small towns I've ever been to. Winters are cold though...

$50k/yr would go pretty far in NM, but it would suck to live on that in the durango area. Houses up there go for $400k a pop easy.

~wheelsup
 
I dont understand what the problem is. Its not the number of seats in the plane that drives the time requiremnts. It the insurance company in this instance.

Kings Airs are single pilot and if its in the mountains, single pilot IFR and Air amblulance, Thats gunna be some hard flying at all hours of the days and nights.

King air in general are harder to fly than Jets.
 
The job ad says it is because of insurance requirements. If they are a new startup, they will probably have high requirements for insurance.

Durango would be nice though, just figure on never buying a house :)

Most air ambulance PIC jobs require at least 2000TT, because the organization that gives accreditation to air med companies requires that much.
 
...am i the only one who cant see the problem???
 
...am i the only one who cant see the problem???
Nope.

Minh
(Not that I like the time requirements being so high, which will leave me in the right-hand seat for a looooong time, just that I know a lot of 5000-hour King Air 'Silver-backs'. :D )
 
2000 TT is not a lot for a King Air PIC single pilot.

The 100 PIC in type is so that you are not high mins.

We used to reguire 2500 for a 200 PIC.
 
Those times are not unreasonable. Sure there are guys flying RJ's with less than 1000 hrs. But they are doing it in the left seat with a Captain that knows what is going on. This job is single pilot so there is nobody there to back you up. I would not put my million dollar King Air or my business on the line with a 1000 hr pilot.
 
Plus it is in mountainous terrain, single pilot, often into uncontrolled airports with non-precision approaches, in the middle of the night at times.

Its a lot different than two pilot airline cockpits, where you have ILS approaches and ATC facilities most everywhere you go, high level of cockpit automation, dispatchers, and most of the decisions are out of your hands.

Sure, there are 300 hour copilots flying big iron in some places around the world, but I wouldnt want them flying single pilot air ambulance at all. My 300 hour cheyenne wxmod copilots from last year are flying Boeings and Airbuses now, and they werent able to fly and talk on the radio at the same time, or even think while flying for that matter.
 
I think you guys are missing my point. 4000 hrs total is not unexceptable for this job. The total of 3000 total with the break down of other requirements is the unrealistic part. The person would have had to of started a PIC multi job at 1000 tot. and a PIC turbine multi job at 2000 total. I was just pointing out that it seemed a little unrealistic,..... that's all.

PtP
 
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pilothouston123 said:
I dont understand what the problem is. Its not the number of seats in the plane that drives the time requiremnts. It the insurance company in this instance.

Kings Airs are single pilot and if its in the mountains, single pilot IFR and Air amblulance, Thats gunna be some hard flying at all hours of the days and nights.

King air in general are harder to fly than Jets.

But the funny part is that the number of seats in the aircraft relates directly to how much the insurance company needs to charge to insure the aircraft. And then there's a fine balance to how qualified you need your pilots to keep the insurance premium in check. Number of seats = liability.
 

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