The vote

[jonjuan]

My 2 cents divided into a penny each

I'm glad I eventually voted yes seeing how close it been

If the union guys talked the red label problems a month ago instead of a week ago the victory would have been bigger.I know for fact there are several people who would have changed theyre vote to yes in the last week but had already voted no. It was biggest issue of campaign.

Also heard from someone who is upset about the company email about net jets but only because they fail to address what Ken said that hurt company in video. They would change vote too after the way they tried to stir up peopole to be ridiculous and call for people by name to get fired.

Next time they should let people switch vote if they want and I think it would he higher. Union waited to long to talk about important stuff and company got much too ugly at end.

Holy sh1t- I read that about 15 times, then drank a 5th of JD and read it 11er more times and still couldn't figger out what you're saying.

 

[doh]

I'm a little hungover this morning...WE WON!! and I was in CLE for the celebration. I'd like to thank warlord19 for all they did to assure that win. If that account hadn't had the posters it had, we probably would have lost. But they couldn't help being themselves, and that pushed enough fence sitters to YES! so thank you management account posters.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Mr. Ricci...

Congrats on getting the Unionized pilot group you always deserved.

Hahahahhaaha!!!!

 

[OHGOON]

Congratulations! Despite all the BS and FUD, there were enough of you to resist and prevail. I am proud and hopeful that reason and facts can sometimes still prevail despite all the noise and confusion that management and its trolls create.

You guys should hold your heads high. Ken Ricci is not going to have a very good weekend...and we all know he richly deserves this kick in the groin.

Go Teamsters!

...and that goes double for all the brown nosing sniveling simps who helped carry Ricci's water all these many months; your pathetic Union prejudices and hatred turned out to be so much ineffective flatulence.

Flex & Flight Options hace a fighting chance now to dutifully become Strong Union which in turn will make Fractional Flying a much more viable career option going forward.

It was a good day!

 

[wacoflyr]

Please, please get a better TA than NetJets. Or at least a more fair one. Remember, REAL unions do not eat their young.

 

[doh]

Not a peep from The Bunker...

 

[imacdog]

Good job guys. I hope you are able to go forward together and get yourselves a great contract.

 

[el raton]

Good job guys. I hope you are able to go forward together and get yourselves a great contract.

For once it would be nice for Flexjet to set the industry standard in a positive way, instead of always Waiting for Netjets to set the bar.

 

[shanes123]

Flexjet can't set the standard for anything other then being a bunch of yes men A kissers 90% voted NO to the Union...Their nothing more then a bunch of clowns, KR saw that the day he bought them thats why he's dressing them in that new uniform clown suit that they so proudly wear..

 

[993_Pilot]

Flexjet can't set the standard for anything other then being a bunch of yes men A kissers 90% voted NO to the Union...Their nothing more then a bunch of clowns, KR saw that the day he bought them thats why he's dressing them in that new uniform clown suit that they so proudly wear..

Even if you really think that, how does calling them "a bunch of clowns" help? Yes, they got played by Kenn, but so did the Travel Air pilots the first time around, or is your memory really that short? What we need to do now is act like the professionals we are and win the nay-sayers over by showing them the benefits of being organized. That is going to take time for most, and some you'll never win over, but the divisive generalizations needs to stop, or you are going to hurt any chance of solidarity and defeat the purpose of being organized in the first place.

 

[doh]

I'm not wearing that uniform yet. WTF are you talking about? And did Phil actually go back to Options? Can someone confirm or deny please.

 

[notapilot]

Flexjet can't set the standard for anything other then being a bunch of yes men A kissers 90% voted NO to the Union...Their nothing more then a bunch of clowns, KR saw that the day he bought them thats why he's dressing them in that new uniform clown suit that they so proudly wear..

The votes were not tallied by company so you have no idea what the split was. I talked to many Option transfer pilots that were bought off with new type ratings and other promises. What's important is together we all move forward.

 

[doh]

That's true shanes. Those approximately 70 NO votes from the Options transfers belong to you. Flexjet pilots had to have been a higher percentage of YES votes to overcome the NOs you saddled us with.
BUT, since this is all past tense, maybe you, or rather WE, should move forward and not dwell on things we can't change. Leave the blamestorming to management.

 

[rigger]

We win!!!!!!

Huh.....that's what the CitationAir guys said........funny how we showed them!!!

 

[doh]

Huh.....that's what the CitationAir guys said........funny how we showed them!!!

Since I would have been immediately terminated had the vote gone the other way, I consider this a win. I've no idea what happens long term, but my not terminated status is a win today. You might also consider that at Bombardier, we enjoyed a union free existence...funny how they showed us...so winning is keeping my job today. Ten years from now is a mystery we will have to face ten years from now.

 

[993_Pilot]

Huh.....that's what the CitationAir guys said........funny how we showed them!!!

Textron was beginning to wind CitationAir down before the vote, so basically nothing changed. You can't blame the union for that, in fact the union refused to participate in allowing your management to sell the airplanes without the pilots. No doubt that what happened to you guys sucks. On the other hand, KR has been dealing with a union for 7+ years. His ego has been bruised because he wasn't able to break the union, and he will probably continue to fight it, but eventually, life will go on. Now he just has to learn to treat his pilots like they are integral to the success of the company instead of simply a burden on his bottom line.

 

[OHGOON]

Rigger was and is a Union hating management enabler. He did what he could to undermine his brothers and sisters at CitationAir at every opportunity. No point in engaging him with facts, his mind was made up from jump. You can't fix stupid...

 

[johnsonrod]

Pay rates for the Aerion should start at $300,000 for Captain.

 

[doh]

Pay rates for the Aerion should start at $300,000 for Captain.

We can safely wait to negotiate those rates until 2022...