The Real story of pinnacle pilots

[Flyer1015]

You won't get a vote, there is no time for that. You MUST be proactive and tell your reps where you stand NOW before it is done for you.

Is this for sure? I thought from listening to the all-hands pilot call that a vote should be done if it materially affects the pilot group.

 

[TristarJS30]

Is this for sure? I thought from listening to the all-hands pilot call that a vote should be done if it materially affects the pilot group.

If they said it once they said it a thousand times on the call. It *could* be put out to a vote by the pilot group but they (MEC) also have the ability to decide for us if "immediate action" is required.

What could require "immediate action" I have no clue... but have a feeling that's what we'll be told happened.

 

[Inconceivable]

If they said it once they said it a thousand times on the call. It *could* be put out to a vote by the pilot group but they (MEC) also have the ability to decide for us if "immediate action" is required.

What could require "immediate action" I have no clue... but have a feeling that's what we'll be told happened.

Yeah, Menke tells them "Give me your answer before 5pm or we file BK and tell the court you were uncooperative."

I am not aware of a single instance of an MEC sending a vote of concessions to membership. I may be wrong.

 

[Flyer1015]

Yeah, Menke tells them "Give me your answer before 5pm or we file BK and tell the court you were uncooperative."

I thought Menke was different than the rest of the sh**y scumbag CEOs?

 

[e=mc2]

Why would W offer anything until the officers that put you in this mess pay back all the money from the stock options and golden parachutes they got putting the company where it is today?

 

[sinkrate]

After parking the SF3's Pinnacle is hopelessly over staffed. It doesn't appear that any new flying is coming. The RJ's from ASA and SkyWest went to GO JETS and it doesn't look like CAL is going to ask for more DH4's. If management already knows there is no more flying they have to consider a furlough.

My guess is the issue isn't 'concessions or bankruptcy', it is 'concessions or furlough'. A furlough needs to happen before the training from the last vacancy award or the training costs increase even more. A big chunk of the training costs from the last award were from the integration of Colgan. Did Delta agree to pick up the training costs of a carrier that doesn't work for them? I doubt it.

 

[jynxyjericho]

I doubt very seriously by the time 11-09 is done we are overstaffed. I have a hard time believing we are overstaffed at this moment assuming 11-09 was complete. Pinnacle is understaffed at this time, although I understand you arent' nearly as screwed as you were previously (thanks in part to the Mesaba furloughs John Hunter wanted to staple) but all three companies are losing pilots each month. March/April is probably 100 pilots less on the ISL and that's the soonest 11-09 is done. If we hit the Big B we will lose airplanes on the -200 side for sure, and with the loss of 40 more then certainly we'd have to furlough a little, but that hasn't happened yet.

 

[altimaklr]

Delta just got final approval for LGA. They will need every regional airframe they have, including all CR2's. It's quite likely that NYC becomes a large base for 9E, at the continued expense of MEM and perhaps ATL down the line.

 

[RJLoser]

Whats up with pref bid? They going to publish the mock after monthly bidding closes?

 

[altimaklr]

Must be good golf weather? How hard is it to post an update every two days?

 

[higney85]

Whats up with pref bid? They going to publish the mock after monthly bidding closes?

It's not easy when solutions won't solve. Hope to have em out tonight.

 

[e=mc2]

Must be one of your people left his shoes on so now they can only count to 10, hard for the crew to work in an unfamilar environment, with indoor plumbing.

 

[Yodafly]

Thanks for some of the info on the integration proposals. Its still not clear how we all ended up where we did but the background info helps.