The pool is very shalow at Air Willy

[Beechnut]

but Jet Blue, Frontier, AirTran and probably Midex and Spirit all have pay, work rules and compensation packages far above Air Wille,

Frontier? Are you kidding me?

S.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

I wasn't going to respond but I guess I have to now. First lets look at Jet Blue, I consider them along the lines of SWA so in reality they are major airline material. Frontier, we ahve people on the property today that earn more they their senior capts they top out at $90,000. Airtran better starting pay but as the years go on we catch and over take them also take a good look at their work rules and compare them to ours plus with pay they are like Frontier they top out less than us. Mid Ex, pilots on furlough and I don't have info on their contract but I have put in a call to a friend of mine who flys there so I hope to get it soon. Sprit airlines need I say more, not even close and **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** lucky to still be in business.

WD.

 

[Ty Webb]

Setting the record straight about AirTran

Airtran [has] better starting pay but as the years go on we catch and over take them also take a good look at their work rules and compare them to ours plus with pay they are like Frontier they top out less than us..

Sounds like you are using some pretty old info. AirTran is in the second year of a four-year contract:

AirTran first year FO pay is $37.50/hr, (versus your $24./hr). A 2nd yr AirTran FO is paid $54.00/hr and a 3rd year Capt. at AirTran makes $106./hr.

Max Capt. pay, AirTran is $156./hr for a 12th yr pilot, so please explain your statement that AWAC pay "tops out higher"?

You should double-check our work rules, too. Our duty rig is 4 hours, versus your 3 (from your company website). Our max duty day is 12 hours, line holders are guaranteed 12 days off, but most lines are 14-19 days off. I've averaged 16-17 days off during the first year, on a fully commutable line.

I am just trying to set the record straight. If you guys got a better contract than this, congratulations. In any event, congatulations for working at a company you like working for, especially in this market.

 

[Beechnut]

Not trying to defend anyone...But, I also hear that at AirTran, if you wind up with an unscheduled layover in your domicile, per contract, they provide you with a hotel...correct me if I'm wrong.

AirWis does that too.

S.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Yea Flip,

I can't tell you how many times in the last two years that's happened to me. We always get treated well in that respect, we even had a month where every over night to one dest was cancelled and they always put us up in domicile. Despite what many may think, this is a hell of nice place to work.

WD.

 

[Ty Webb]

Yepper . . . . AirTran will pay for the hotel if you are cancelled in domicile.

If you are sent for training outside of base (Miami, in my case)they give you a corporate apartment, rental car and per diem. Pay starts Day 1, whether you are in ATL, MIA, or LGB. Pay is 70 hrs @ $37.50 while in training, and per diem is $1.75 per hour.

We should start hiring heavily in January . . . .

 

[Beechnut]

Kinda makes this whole argument silly doesn't it?

S.

 

[Ty Webb]

Air Wisconsin to start feeding AirTran

What makes it seem silly?

Are you talking about the news that Air Wisc will be feeding AirTran at ATL starting Nov 15th?

Here's a link http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020926/262351_1.html