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The number 1 reason I think 100% of ASA should vote to strike.

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FishandFly

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I hear both sides of this argument from the militant to those who don't want to take any risk in the direction of insecurity. But the fact is that our company is at a crossroad.

Whether you think of this company as a stepping stone to the next airline, or want to live in atlanta and end up making around 100k a year with 17 days off a month, we should all be able to agree upon the fact that we want our company to treat us with respect.

The old guys say that ASA used to be a horrible place to work. Somewhere along the line we were transformed into a decent place to work. But why can't our company be like Southwest or Fedex or UPS (or some would say SkyWest)?

The reason why this is currently an impossibility for our company is because the G.O. is filled with people who would stab their best friend in the back to get ahead. Their sole goal in life is to make as much profit as possible.

Now, we have been told by our "Supervisor" that all airlines are commodities, and we as employees are nothing more than a commodity.

As was apparent to everyone I've spoke with about the letter, this was a foolish ploy that no one bought into. But it does paint a picture of the crossroad we face.

Our company would outsource every one of our jobs to people from india if they could, but that mentality may be something that we can change.

We must remain solid in our desire to be respected as employees. It is not only the small raise that we are fighting for, but the possibility of moving our company in the direction of the GOOD companies in the industry.

Good companies place their employees at the top of their list.

Good companies understand that they get what they pay for, and therefore it is a win-win to pay employees well.

Good companies do not refuse to say thanks to employee groups that make the company one of the most profitable in the business.

Good companies don't consider delaying a contract 5 years good business.

Good companies promote good leadership.

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If Atkin doesn't understand this, then my respect for him has just equalled that of my CEO in the G.O.

We are not a commodity, and if we continue to allow our company to treat us as such then we deserve what we get.

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Now, everyone at Skywest says that Atkin is a decent guy. This is his test. He needs to understand that his ability to have us be an efficient workforce is as simple as doing the following..

1. Realize that you purchased a company that has been taking advantage of it's employees where ever they see an opportunity.

2. Make bigger changes in management. Starting with a CEO that carries the corporate mentality of GOOD COMPANIES.

3. Understand that unless you win our trust, you will get NO EXTRA HELP FROM US.

Treat us like a commodity? We do the minimum, and this company will melt.
 
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You want to whine, at least get the name correct. And if you don't know, take a moment to look it up.

http://www.skywest.com/

Jerry Atkin
Chairman
Chief Executive Officer
SkyWest, Inc.


FishandFly said:
If Atkins doesn't understand this, ....
Now, everyone at Skywest says that Atkins is a decent guy. .....
I'm not going to get into 'the feud' of Pilots vs. Management or even Pilots vs. Pilots. I'm just saying, if you want your information to sound like you know what you are talking about, at least spell the names correct.
 
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flyjumpseat said:
You want to whine, at least get the name correct. And if you don't know, take a moment to look it up.

http://www.skywest.com/

Jerry Atkin
Chairman
Chief Executive Officer
SkyWest, Inc.




I'm not going to get into 'the fued' of Pilots vs. Management or even Pilots vs. Pilots. I'm just saying, if you want your information to sound like you know what you are talking about, at least spell the names correct.

Ya might want to step away from the coffee pot. lol....
 
flyjumpseat said:
You want to whine, at least get the name correct. And if you don't know, take a moment to look it up.

http://www.skywest.com/

Jerry Atkin
Chairman
Chief Executive Officer
SkyWest, Inc.



I'm not going to get into 'the feud' of Pilots vs. Management or even Pilots vs. Pilots. I'm just saying, if you want your information to sound like you know what you are talking about, at least spell the names correct.

A little hypersensitive aren't you? Like anyone cares about the spelling of the guys name, except perhaps, you.

I am sure Gerry Adkins will appreciate and reward your loyalty in the long run.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
A little hypersensitive aren't you? Like anyone cares about the spelling of the guys name, except perhaps, you.

I am sure Gerry Adkins will appreciate and reward your loyalty in the long run.

Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.
 
homerjdispatch said:
Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.

And we should respect someone telling someone about respect that can't use punctuation or spell check either?

Its/It's
form/from
Mr/Mr.

Sheesh
 
homerjdispatch said:
Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.

I am not at work to be respected, liked, appreciated, hugged, coddled by my employer.

I am there to be fairly compensated for the professional execution of the duties for which I am paid period.

I don't give a sh1t if Gerry Adkins or Briun Lubreck like me respect me or otherwise. I expect to do my job and be compensated in return. Period.

Gerry Adkins is already rich. Briun Lubreck is well on his way thanks to the fruits of my labor. I am simply trying to salt away enough cash to help put my kids through college.

When the lie to me and tell me I need to make less so they can make more, it highlights the fact that they are greedy conniving b@stards. They are attempting to use the rest of the industry woes as justification for picking my pocket.

You are right though, it is simple.

It is insulting and makes me angry.
 
Btw Homer, how do tell a dispatcher with two black eyes to get your release...

:laugh:
 
Nothing, You told him twice already!!!!!:laugh:


Fish, GREAT POST! They have truely set this place in an ALMOST unrecoverable tail spin! We will see.....100% for my VOTE!
 
homerjdispatch said:
Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.

How about the people in the GO that were told that their jobs were safe and their pay also. Should they show Mr Atkin respect? I think not.
 
homerjdispatch said:
Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.

You're right Homer, it IS all about respect. And respect is earned. So far, no one is our GO has done anything to earn ours, and for that matter neither has Mr. Atkin. If he wants ours then he needs to treat us fairly, and as professionals.
 
Good post.

I will be doing my best to let the operation take it's course without my interference.

It's certainly against my work ethic and upbringing, but the time has come to see what happens when we do JUST what we are (minimally) paid to do.
 
ASA is OUR Company

The pilots and employees of ASA were almost like abused children ready to embrace an adoptive foster parent when Mr. Jerry Adkin took ownership of our company. A sterling opportunity for him to step in and quickly build a working relationship based on trust, teamwork and mutual respect was ripe for the picking. Sadly, this opportunity was squandered, just p1ssed away. Rather than utilize a more modern approach, Mr. Adkin has chosen to operate the old fashioned way with the confrontational, insincere, threatening and fractious methods of his predecessors.

A pilot wouldn't have had to have been here long to have seen numerous owners and managers come and go at ASA. Many of us have been here for years and years, several since day one. It would quickly become apparent to anyone studying the history of ASA, that the company has not thrived because of any great "managerial" talent. No, ASA has thrived more in spite of the management rather than because of it. Those who deserve credit are us, the employees who make our "manager's" world go around. The disconnected "managers" of ASA refuse to acknowledge the supreme importance their pilots play in the successful operation of this airline. No, this is not their company...it is our company. And now because of the disgraceful flock of current, largely transient managers, the pilots are forced to take drastic measures to preserve our livelihoods. Not one of us wishes this course of action, however virtually all of us now recognize the lack of any alternative.

Lastly, in order to save time and effort, I would like to apologize in advance for the numerous grammatical errors I'm sure are present in this posting. To all the English and grammar professors out there, I recognize my abysmal spelling and punctuation and hope you won't find it necessary to point out my many mistakes. Thank you.
 
homerjdispatch said:
Its all about respect. If you want respect form Mr Atkin, maybe getting his name right would be the first step. Its as simple as that.

No one is asking for respect, just a contract. If it isn't done, we'll shut it down. Simple as that.
 
ReportCanoa said:
No one is asking for respect, just a contract. If it isn't done, we'll shut it down. Simple as that.

You already have a contract. It appears to me, the only thing you are asking for is respect.
 
777_Jackpot said:
You already have a contract. It appears to me, the only thing you are asking for is respect.

No, I want a contract signed. Respect does not exist in the airline business. I don't buy all this team member respect garbage. It would never last, but a contract will. Maybe longer than it should.
 
I'm not part of this crap

If yall put up a strike vote, the 170 Gods will come in and take our flying away. It's as easy as that. We have to bend over now!:beer:
 
Fish;

Excellent essay. Thanks for taking the time to put your thoughts down.

That really sums it up well.
 
Don't call anyone again

The other night I went in for a nap. Great, ship 830, D31. Get to D lounge, screen says swapped into ship 905, gate 26. No prob.

Get to ship 905, MX on board. Capt didn't call to "jog" anyone into action. Decided to let "nature take it's course" 1.5 hours later, can't be fixed. Mx calls ops.

15 min later we are back into ship 830, D31. Plane has been sitting there for 5-6 hours.

Flight was 1.75 hours late because the left had no idea what the right was doing. If Capt had called, it would have been on time. Daily occurrence

Don't call anymore
 
right on no more calls for me--catering lavs boarding fuel NOTHING I am going to be a pilot thats it folks..............DO YOUR JOB only!!!!!!! I say we do CHAOS Strikes hurt everyone involved--Create CHAOS,,,,,ALPA

HOw is Skywest different than *************************s--at least *************************s us unionized..
 

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