The next strike is the last one.

[Draginass]

A Delta shutdown cripple the southeast?????? Oh, please. Whose putting out tripe like that? What a bunch of overblown malarky . . . . typical of the lies and deceit that is de rigor of American corporate executives and policians.

Besides, if there's a mass resignation and walk-out, not even the corporation's surrogate gestapo can go into pilot's homes, drag them out and force them to fly . . . . at least not yet.

Besides, it's not going to be tested anyway. The Delta pilots are going to fold like cheap suits and kiss Grinsteen's feet before it's all over.

 

[AlbieF15]

...a very smart union rep once told me that you can do more to influence a company ON the property than off the property. If pilots cannot strike, they can slow down, divert, etc etc etc. If that were to happen, airline management will BEG them to strike and get off the property...

 

[pipejockey]

I think a strike is the only thing left that will show management that the pilot profession has hit rock bottom and we will not let it fall any further. Enough is enough, and if the pay, workrules, and QOL fall any further the job won't be worth having any longer.

 

[PHXFLYR]

"Enough is enough" .... yeah,right. Who you kidding?


PHXFLYR

 

[737 Pylt]

Besides, it's not going to be tested anyway. The Delta pilots are going to fold like cheap suits and kiss Grinsteen's feet before it's all over.

Man I hate to say this, but you're right...ala US Air, United, AMR, NWA...please add to whoever I forgot. DAL pilots are no better. We thought that US Air should take one for the team, they didn't, then UAL, they didn't, now DAL, we won't... We'll roll over just everyone else
737
so sad!

 

[Superpilot92]

I think i am going to puke this industry is in an unrecoverable spin. Someone needs to kick alittle rudder and break the spin. Any suggestions!!!!When will it stop? Legacys paying close to regional pay scales--WTFO!!!

 

[Falconjet]

What is worse is listening to the pilots on the board arguing that we should be happy to make about 60K. I wonder how many of the athletes over on NBAinfo.com are pontificating about how they make more than they are worth and they should be happy to play a game for 60K a year instead of 6M? After all its only a game right?

I can hear them now: "I can't believe they don't make me pay them for the priviledge of playing a kid's game because I love the game". And maybe "playing basketball should be a hobby not a job and you should have some other means set up to feed your family".

Oh yeah, you probably don't see that after all.

Pilots (at least some of them) are our own worst enemy sometimes. We should all be negotiating to get the most we can while we can because you never know when the bottom is going to drop out.

I'm not advocating bleeding the company dry, I'm just advocating pricing the product at a level that will allow you pay the pilots and other employees a wage that is commenserate with their talents and experience level and exercise a business plan that will make some money at the same time. If that means JoeBLow has to pay more than 300 bucks to fly across the country and back so be it.

Enough of the we should be happy to fly and still get paid $60K to boot. Please.

FJ

 

[Lear70]

...a very smart union rep once told me that you can do more to influence a company ON the property than off the property. If pilots cannot strike, they can slow down, divert, etc etc etc. If that were to happen, airline management will BEG them to strike and get off the property...

That's nice to talk about, but what group has the cajones to do that?

What group has the cajones to just QUIT??!!

If you can't get a group to STRIKE, which has certain job protections, with 7,000+ pilots on the streets, how the HELL are you going to get them to do any of the above? Especially at the regional level where half your employees paid $40,000 to $80,000 for their jobs and are just "happy to be flying a shiny new jet"?

This is all rhetoric. Pilots will continue to be their own worst enemy. Capital Hill will be a close second if those proposed bills passed.

I have YET to hear ANYTHING that would fix the basic problem of supply and demand. There's too much SUPPLY of WILLING pilots to fill waning demand at lower wages.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

global thermo nuclear war

Greetings professor Falken.
Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?

 

[miles otoole]

Greetings professor Falken.
Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?

No. Global Thermo Nuclear War