The new NMB ruling is in

[JoeMerchant]

Cohen speaks for you because you can't/won't and you don't even know what he says....

Prater speaks for you because you can't speak for yourself....You blindly follow what ALPA says....

 

[10nCLR]

“Importantly, the rule doesn’t provide an equal process for decertifying a union. The Air Transport Association has said it will seek a review of this in court. Delta and other carriers plan to support the lawsuit, because we believe our employees deserve a thoughtful and expeditious court review of a significant change of this importance,” Richard said.

 

[PCL_128]

You know the second anyone votes in a union under this new provision, it's going to go to court and stall for years.

No it won't. Any case will be dismissed on summary judgement. The courts have no authority to review regulatory changes by an agency that has the authority to create its own internal procedures.

These are laws that are being changed and only the congress and senate can change them not the NMB.

No law has been changed. Only NMB procedure has changed. The RLA states that the NMB makes its own internal procedures and policies. It's pretty clear.

I'll believe a Spirit strike when I see it...until then it's business as usual

A strike isn't the goal; the goal is a fair contract. The whole point of a cooling off period is to apply pressure so that a deal can be reached prior to a strike. But yes, you'll see a strike on June 12th if management isn't smart enough to sign a deal.

 

[pilotyip]

This is all a moot point, because of BO's Health Care Plan. There are incentives in the plan for employers to dump their employees into the gov't health care pool. This would not apply to Union Workeers who have contracts to ensure they have company paid health care. Therefore almost everyone including management will now want to unionize to ensure they are not dumped into this wonderful Health Care Plan.

 

[Tarzan]

No it won't. Any case will be dismissed on summary judgement. The courts have no authority to review regulatory changes by an agency that has the authority to create its own internal procedures.



No law has been changed. Only NMB procedure has changed. The RLA states that the NMB makes its own internal procedures and policies. It's pretty clear.



A strike isn't the goal; the goal is a fair contract. The whole point of a cooling off period is to apply pressure so that a deal can be reached prior to a strike. But yes, you'll see a strike on June 12th if management isn't smart enough to sign a deal.

You had better get back into law school. The civil courts will have a field day with it. The NMB is still governed by law which can be addressed in your argument.

I admire the face that you are involved but for Lord's sake, get some perspective. Try some objectivity for once regarding ALPA. It is not the "end all, be all." The Association has a fiscal responsibility to its memebers just as a company has to share holders. Part of that involves having a healthy company that will continue to keep its pilots employed over the long term.

 

[JoeMerchant]

You had better get back into law school. The civil courts will have a field day with it. The NMB is still governed by law which can be addressed in your argument.

I admire the face that you are involved but for Lord's sake, get some perspective. Try some objectivity for once regarding ALPA. It is not the "end all, be all." The Association has a fiscal responsibility to its memebers just as a company has to share holders. Part of that involves having a healthy company that will continue to keep its pilots employed over the long term.

Well said.

ALPA is like a tool in the toolbox. You need to know how to use it. It can be used improperly. It has some rust on it....and if it quits working it needs to be replaced.

 

[Flyprdu]

Part of that involves having a healthy company that will continue to keep its pilots employed over the long term.

Spoken like a true company man. You are so afraid to push the envelope that you're unwilling to take any steps to better the conditions of the job or the compensation we receive.

Just a big saggy vagina.

 

[PCL_128]

You had better get back into law school. The civil courts will have a field day with it. The NMB is still governed by law which can be addressed in your argument.

Again, this has already been settled in court. I suggest you read the NMB General Counsel's legal brief on this. It's quite thorough, and it will answer all of your questions.

Part of that involves having a healthy company that will continue to keep its pilots employed over the long term.

I agree, but that has nothing to do with this issue. What is your point?

 

[Dubya]

ALPO is controlled by the top of the legacy seniority lists. They could give a flying frogs fat ass about any regional hack and their pay, QOL, or desire to "better the profession". After losing their obscene pay and pension, they are only out to protect what they have and try and get some of it back, not help out the rest of us. Look around a little. They prove it over and over.

Pay-a-fuclking-tention people.

 

[Tarzan]

Spoken like a true company man. You are so afraid to push the envelope that you're unwilling to take any steps to better the conditions of the job or the compensation we receive.

Just a big saggy vagina.

Wow! Did you think of that all by yourself or do your big brother help you? I do my part. Do you?

 

[Tarzan]

Again, this has already been settled in court. I suggest you read the NMB General Counsel's legal brief on this. It's quite thorough, and it will answer all of your questions.

I agree, but that has nothing to do with this issue. What is your point?

It doesn't matter what has been decided in the past. While precedent does factor in heavily, there are a myriad of alternative methods to address it without touching previous rulings. Haven't you noticed how civil courts work these days? If the case has even the slightest merit, it goes forward, precedent or not.

My point is that you tend have an inability to look at both sides and toe the line on anything Association related. Anytime someone steps forward with a differing opinion you immediately spring to ALPA's defense. You appear to fail to take in the big picture. That is my point.

 

[Axel]

It's gonna make FAPA's upcoming project a lot easier at RAH.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

It doesn't matter what has been decided in the past. While precedent does factor in heavily,


That is my point.

It doesn't matter but it does?

 

[tomgoodman]

Very simple, really

It doesn't matter but it does?

Yes. Courts always follow precedent, except when they don't. You now understand the law.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

ALPO is controlled by the top of the legacy seniority lists. They could give a flying frogs fat ass about any regional hack and their pay, QOL, or desire to "better the profession".

After losing their obscene pay and pension, they are only out to protect what they have and try and get some of it back, not help out the rest of us. Look around a little. They prove it over and over.

Pay-a-fuclking-tention people.

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Being stuck at a regional, and being a fatass..............I would almost feel sorry for you if it wasn't so friggin funny!:laugh: