The Mesaba carrot coming into veiw

[DoinTime]

Check out this photo off of the Bombardier website.

Mesaba CRJ

Once you have the link opened download the hi-res version and zoom into the placard between the cockpit and cabin door.

Looks like Northwest has Bombardier doing their dirty work now.

 

[T-handle]

Where's our contract?

 

[FO for life]

i didn't want to believe it either - but after searching the Bombardier website I found the same picture with the same result - no photo edit here except that which was done at Bombardier

 

[sf3boy]

Now I am confused. Management has been spouting off for the last two years that until we have a new contract with pay rates for the CRJ, we at Mesaba will not get them. Has management been lying all the while????

It was always a stupid excuse by management anyway. We already have a pay rate for that airplane and I can guarantee that in the new contract, the rate will not be less than current book.

I'll believe that Mesaba is getting CRJ's when there is a vacancy notice for it. And then I still will have my doubts and not fully believe it is true until N79XJ is gone in Quarter #4 in fiscal 2019.

 

[General Lee]

I saw one of those in DTW, but I guess it was a Pinnacle bird. Hey, when will those Big Sky guys be flying those in the MSP region?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[T-handle]

Hey, when will those Big Sky guys be flying those in the MSP region?

Bye Bye--General Lee

Hopefully never........

 

[avrodriver]

I think the majority of us believe Mesaba will eventually have CRJ's in thier fleet. I also believe the majority of us believe there are no aircraft actually sitting around painted like that. I guess the question is what's the point in going through the trouble of making one....maybe that f.ucker Spangers or whatever his name is requested they create it for the walls of the room that contains all the answers they already know, but just aren't sharing. Man I hate that creep, he needs an ass whippin. AD

p.s. I read that ridiculous proposal that mgmt shared with the negotiating team.......I noticed nothing was mentioned about scope. Did anyone ever address this?

 

[T-handle]

DO NOT LOSE SIGHT OF CONTRACT GOALS!

Whatever the case may be, if it the picture was doctored at the request of NWA, Mesaba or whoever or in fact it is real, we should not lose our focus of our contract goals.

IF ANYTHING.... this picture should be a good thing, like a motivator. Hey, cool we're getting CRJs, but lets get a contract we deserve and show the rest of the ALPA community we are serious. CRJ, ERJ, FRJ, ARJ, I don't care.......... the light at the end of the tunnel is right around the corner.

 

[4fanman]

Am I missing something?

It's a picture of a CRJ in NWA colors. Big deal. Go to DTW, MSP, or MEM and you can see a whole bunch of 'em. There is no revelation here.

 

[4fanman]

Yup, I missed it

***Note to self...Read entire post carefully, follow instructions, and then reply***

I find it hard to believe that they would go to the trouble to doctor a photo hoping that someone would catch the slightest detail in it. But at this point, those pricks would stop at nothing to play some mind games.

It still baffles me the time, effort, and energy managment types will expend just to be ass.holes.

Avrodriver, there are a whole bunch of losers in the GO that could use a good ass.kickin. Bye the way, hows life on the other side?

Hope to be there soon.

 

[Simon Says]

4fanman,

Now that was funny.

 

[hmmm]

After looking at the expanded view....

The lower red edge portion of the winglets and its fwd leading edge bottom corner. Edge is too clean compared to the rest of the picture.

The flag looks crooked.

And the black paint on the bottom side of the horozontal, inboard edge doesn't match what to expect of reality.

Not to mention it is against Fed Regs to be flying an aircraft experimental, testing or otherwise without identifying registration in both US and Canadian aviation regulations. Punishable by seizure of the aircraft as well as fines. Seen it happen. Oh yea I guess its hidden by the wing in the view we are seeing.

Fake picture...... or ... Not fake whipsaw???

Something has to replace your Saabs sometime. Smaller communities can just get grants from the Feds for a little longer runway. Only need aprox 5500 feet.

You gotta keep the Avros so I can go to Aspen for snowboarding in the winter anyway.

Avrodriver......Who is that ..ucker Spangers?

 

[4fanman]

hmmm,

No one is questioning a CRJ in NWA colors. 9E is already operating a bunch. The placard under/behind the windshield says "Operated by Mesaba Airlines".

 

[hmmm]

Yea I know it says Operated by Mesaba Airlines...... I see it in the pic. Just jumping on the band wagon to say its a fake doctored picture.

By the way.... like your Avatar 4fanman.... Thats my favorite boob tube show.

The people in that show closely resemble my relatives in S.E. Georgia... Wayne County.... Jessssup Georgia hhehehehe

 

[T-handle]

Sumptin's fishy........ if they wanted to pi$$ us off, they would have put "Operated by Big Sky Airlines", not Mesaba. Why and who put this pic on the website are the questions. I recommend we call Bombardier directly.

 

[alrightythen23]

Hello??? Have you guys ever heard of attrition?? Definitely a carrot to keep those poor FO's wondering should I stay or should I go..........still at least a year until Mesaba gets their contract settled and another year till they see a jet like that.......

 

[autothrottle]

Operated by Mesaba

Now I am not a legal expert but I would think if Bombardier posted this , there must be some copyright problems using the trademark " Mesaba Airlines". I think the plan has always been to give Mesaba a few of these jets and management is draggin their feet with talks..... could be coincidental but Mesaba stock has been on the rise.

 

[saabtrash]

Here is a post from the Mesaba ALPA message board:

After looking into this here is what I found. The picture is from stock photos painted on the computer in the new NWA colors.

Yes I was bored but here is how I figured this out.

Download the hi-res photo of the Shandong CRJ200 01 at the Bombardier link.

http://www.bombardier.com/en/3_0/ml/1229/32_shangdong-jpg.zip

Open this up and flip the picture so the aircraft nose is facing left. Open the NWA CRJ and compare the two side-by-side. The shadows are identical but what sealed the deal is the cockpit. The two pilots you can see inside are a perfect match.

Sorry to spoil the fun but it didn't add up.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Photoshop?
Anyone want some Kool-Aid?
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hey,
Anyone want a "Do-it-yourself Brain Surgery Kit". If you zoom in on the "operated by" until at max resolution you can see the background is slightly different around the printing. This is nothing more than advertising, or pilot kool-aid in a more portable package.
Be suspicious of wood horse, full of guys with swords.
PBR

 

[GuppyPuppy]

Upon closer inspection I noticed that the outer door handle for the forward passenger door is the old type where you pull out the handle and rotate. The new CRJ's have a handle that can be operated with one hand.

This is definitely not a new CRJ, and holy cow, I really have to get a life.

GP

 

[SeaX]

holy crap

I didnt' notice that... but now that you say it, yeah, that's an old crj

 

[cl-65link]

Sure, it's a doctored photo. The point is it is located on the Bombardier website. I'm doubtful Bombardier would post it, unless they had a reason. Hmm, we'll see.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

That's not the first "doctored" photo to show up on the Bombardier website. I downloaded a CRJ photo of one of our birds and when I looked at it real close something didn't look right. As it turns out they had pasted on the widget and "SkyWest" was in editable text.