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Excellent job...hopefully NWA management won't have him 'ghosted' while he's sleeping.

If you want to thank Don his email is: [email protected]
 
He hit the nail on the head!! WOW I am impressed. Someone in the media with a brain.

Everyone needs to stand TOGETHER and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! Unfortunately quite a few of us stands saying " It's all about me!!" Well when there is nothing left then what?
 
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JetDude said:
On the money (figuratively of course)!!!

Hi, it's Dave!

Management definitely needs to be well compensated. The USA Today has a very telling article on 3B.

JOBS HEAT UP FOR MBA GRADS.

Clearly, the demand for sophisticated, well-educated management is there, and airlines need to recognize that. It is the management team that enables the entire airline to succeed. Typical newscaster, thinking that a laborer is worth more than the managers. His opinion, although it makes you overcompensated pilots feel better about yourselves, is completely worthless and has no bearing on what we, as managers do.

The court of public opinion is really shaped by market forces, and what people say with their puchasing decisions. People buy airline tickets based on price and convenience of schedule. When your airline had a virtual monopoly on direct service, we could charge higher fares. Now, that people see side-by-side fare comparisons on expedia and travelocity, many times they'll opt for connecting through another city (or drive 200 miles to originate from another city) in order to save a few bucks.

Nowhere in their decision making process does the "quality of the pilot" come into focus. Stop kidding yourselves. Management understands market forces, not you.

If you want to tell yourselves that you're actually important, then you're living a lie.
 
Dave Siegel said:
Thank you, While Rider. It's nice to see someone appreciates my perspective and insight.

And there are legions of those who just wish you would look up the word "karma" in the dictionary.
 
SoCentralRain said:
And there are legions of those who just wish you would look up the word "karma" in the dictionary.

I don't know. Are there legions of people who can't understand what you're trying to say? I don't believe in karma, I believe in my intellect. I am a MENSA, and I trust my own ablities. I control my own destiny. I suppose it must be a really helpless feeling for you pilots, always relying on the decisions of others to determine your future. How pathetic.
 
Dave Siegel said:
I don't know. Are there legions of people who can't understand what you're trying to say?

No. Sorry. What I said was crystal clear.



Dave Siegal said:
I suppose it must be a really helpless feeling for you pilots, always relying on the decisions of others to determine your future. How pathetic.

What seems pathetic is the length to which you will go self-aggrandizing causes that seem not to affect you personally.

SCR
 
SoCentralRain said:
No. Sorry. What I said was crystal clear.





What seems pathetic is the length to which you will go self-aggrandizing causes that seem not to affect you personally.

SCR

No. Sorry. You are a horrible communicator.

Management always is affected by the decisions we make. What makes it harder for you pilots is that our decisions can put you out of work. Next time, you'd better check your attitude. Since we hired you, you think that you'd be more appreciative of the jobs that we, as management provide for you.

If you're still bitter, maybe you should choose another profession. Unfortunately for you, I doubt the you are qualified to do something else. I suggest you just smile, and take whatever management offers. By the way, you're welcome.
 
Dave Siegel said:
No. Sorry. You are a horrible communicator.

By the way, you're welcome.

"Dave,"

Nowhere did I ask you for your advice on matters of management. (Go back and check this thread.)

There will be no gratitude for your bilious, vitriolic, self-aggrandizing tone.

If you need help understanding any of the preceeding, there's a fine dictionary at www.m-w.com.

Cheers,

SCR
 
SoCentralRain said:
"Dave,"

Nowhere did I ask you for your advice on matters of management. (Go back and check this thread.)

There will be no gratitude for your bilious, vitriolic, self-aggrandizing tone.

If you need help understanding any of the preceeding, there's a fine dictionary at www.m-w.com.

Cheers,

SCR

SCR, you don't need to ask for my advice. I know you need it, so I offer it free of charge. Thank you for the dictionary, but as I've said before, my MBA shows that I have superior intellect, and if you think you are intelligent, then I think you are sadly mistaken.


I am financially independent. Are you? No, I didn't think so.
 
Having an MBA doesn't make you smarter than someone without. I would rather have common sense and not sound like a complete moron, than be book smart. I know a few stupid people people that have MBA's.
I'm not saying you are stupid....but if these people running the airline's are doing such a great job and "deserve" these bonuses, than why are they all in bankrupcy? You can't blame everything on fuel even though that is a problem. How about raising ticket prices?
 
msmb said:
Having an MBA doesn't make you smarter than someone without. I would rather have common sense and not sound like a complete moron, than be book smart. I know a few stupid people people that have MBA's.
I'm not saying you are stupid....but if these people running the airline's are doing such a great job and "deserve" these bonuses, than why are they all in bankrupcy? You can't blame everything on fuel even though that is a problem. How about raising ticket prices?

It's Dave.

I don't blame everything on fuel. Quite frankly, most of the blame lies with the pilots themselves.

Raising ticket prices just sends customers to other carriers. This is a game of survival, and grabbing market share by lowering ticket prices is what must be done until we are finally able to control labor costs.
 
Dave Siegel said:
SCR, you don't need to ask for my advice. I know you need it, so I offer it free of charge.

"Dave",

No, it's not "free of charge." It comes with a side order of antipathy, spite and arrogance. Thanks, I'll pass. Nothing is free.

Dave Siegel said:
Thank you for the dictionary, but as I've said before, my MBA shows that I have superior intellect, and if you think you are intelligent, then I think you are sadly mistaken.


I am financially independent. Are you? No, I didn't think so.

Again, "Dave", to think that anything you mention about your so-called intellect and pedigree on an anonymous forum as being credible is so incredible as to be contemptuous. You should know this, Mr. Mensa.

I have no ability to check if you are financially independant (or any of your other so-called "qualifications") just as you have no ability to check to see if I am. That is contemptuous. As I said, karma...

SCR
 
Dave Siegel said:
Thank you, While Rider. It's nice to see someone appreciates my perspective and insight.

Don't thank me Dave, I wasn't backing you up. I meant the media report was Excellent. Not wht you said!
 

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