~The Efficiency of Alter Ego Flying~

[~~~^~~~]

Can anyone top this schedule?

Check this out. Seventy one hours time away from base, eight hours of deadhead, three nights in a hotel, for a round trip worth less than three and a half hours of pay.

Can anyone top the efficiency of SkyWest's management of ASA's alter ego operation from Salt Lake City, courtesy of ******* in Crew Planning? If ASA's crews are less efficient than SkyWest's, I wonder why....

Total costs for Per Diem, non productive deadhead legs, and hotel are $2,075 for less than $438 worth of productive flying for the crew. In other words, if divided evenly amongst the crew members EACH crew member's costs for every hour of productive work is $257.74 and these crew members are not available to staff an airline which is critically short of employees.

Delta, SkyWest, ASA, or the shareholders should be angry that ASA's CRJ Flight Attendants cost more on an hourly basis than a topped out Delta 757 Captain picking up a green slip trip - all while ASA cancels flights, defers jets, gets schedule relief from Delta and pays overtime rates because crew planning refuses to recognize that sticking a crew at a SkyWest outstation and forgetting about them actually costs someone money.

It is negligence, pure and simple. A lack of caring about your Company, or your crews... and this is NORMALLY SCHEDULED in the bid package.
~~~~~

A4D97 : 28MAY ONLY ON MONBSE REPT: 1659L
Base/Equip: ATL/CRJCA01FO01FA01

MO
DH 1074ATL-SLC17592008 04090113
DHD
MO 4532SLC-RAP21212258 0137 01370409 05460814RAP 5417 D-END: 2313L (NR 900) REPT: 0530L
Tu
We
TH 4305RAP-SLC06150759 01440211
THDH 0588SLC-ATL10101559 0349 DHD 01440349 05330844 D-END: 1614L

T.A.F.B.: 7115 DHD: 0758 Total Block: 0321

Crew: CA Open FO Open FA Open

 

[~~~^~~~]

SkyWest's pilots, if you want to take ASA flying. Please start by taking this trip and if you need someone in Crew Planning, there are some real Award of Excellence winners I would like to reccommend.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Do you have any kind of trip/duty rig to make it bearable?

 

[~~~^~~~]

Nope. For a new hire, less than $60 for four days of their time.

For the company a new hire that costs more than a Delta 757 Captain at time and a half.

This is just negligence.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

This is just ASA.

 

[landlover]

you should quit and come to the dark side. become a freight dog!

 

[Skippy]

thats a sick call for sure! mmmm let me see call in sick for a approx 4 hr four day--- it's a no brainer-- im sure it will be worth your sick time for the month in whatever you accrue-- they will defintely get the point.

 

[737 Pylt]

Check this out. Seventy one hours time away from base, eight hours of deadhead, three nights in a hotel, for a round trip worth less than three and a half hours of pay.

Can anyone top the efficiency of SkyWest's management of ASA's alter ego operation from Salt Lake City, courtesy of ******* in Crew Planning? If ASA's crews are less efficient than SkyWest's, I wonder why....

Total costs for Per Diem, non productive deadhead legs, and hotel are $2,075 for less than $438 worth of productive flying for the crew. In other words, if divided evenly amongst the crew members EACH crew member's costs for every hour of productive work is $257.74 and these crew members are not available to staff an airline which is critically short of employees.

Delta, SkyWest, ASA, or the shareholders should be angry that ASA's CRJ Flight Attendants cost more on an hourly basis than a topped out Delta 757 Captain picking up a green slip trip - all while ASA cancels flights, defers jets, gets schedule relief from Delta and pays overtime rates because crew planning refuses to recognize that sticking a crew at a SkyWest outstation and forgetting about them actually costs someone money.

It is negligence, pure and simple. A lack of caring about your Company, or your crews... and this is NORMALLY SCHEDULED in the bid package.
~~~~~

A4D97 : 28MAY ONLY ON MONBSE REPT: 1659L
Base/Equip: ATL/CRJCA01FO01FA01

MO
DH 1074ATL-SLC17592008 04090113
DHD
MO 4532SLC-RAP21212258 0137 01370409 05460814RAP 5417 D-END: 2313L (NR 900) REPT: 0530L
Tu
We
TH 4305RAP-SLC06150759 01440211
THDH 0588SLC-ATL10101559 0349 DHD 01440349 05330844 D-END: 1614L

T.A.F.B.: 7115 DHD: 0758 Total Block: 0321

Crew: CA Open FO Open FA Open

Fins:
If this is a real trip and didn't go through the rjdc filter, then you have some serious issues there, and this trip should be framed and hand delivered to your sched. committee!
That's downright bad!

737

 

[~~~^~~~]

Came right out of this month's bid package. Our scheduling committee can't do anything about it, "it is legal" and happens all the time.

My point is only the waste that is inherent when your first goal is to undermine labor by routing seven Connection carriers through eachother's hubs.

Delta flying should be performed by Delta pilots.

 

[Sinca3]

Let's not forget that ASA wants 50% DH pay down from our current 100% DH pay in the new contract!! Think of all the money you would lose if this were to occur

 

[JoeMerchant]

Let's not forget that ASA wants 50% DH pay down from our current 100% DH pay in the new contract!! Think of all the money you would lose if this were to occur

Not true, company has already agreed to 100%. People should know what the table positions are at this point. It's OK to have different opinions on these issues, but at least educate yourself on the issues...

 

[RJP]

Sure wish I knew how to read that, it looks horrible.

 

[Tomct]

ASA is the most WASTEFUL company I have ever known. They P!SS money away right and left and yet they try to nickel and dime the pilots to DEATH. H3ll, if we just fixed the inefficiencies of our IDIOTIC MGMNT TEAM, the pilots could already have a new contract and be on our way to making things better here!! Apparently JA is not worried about throwing money away on a daily basis!

 

[ASARJMan]

Not true, company has already agreed to 100%. People should know what the table positions are at this point. It's OK to have different opinions on these issues, but at least educate yourself on the issues...

But the company originally wanted DH reduced to 50%, but those dang ALPA negotiators refused to and then the company agreed to keep it at 100%! Damn ALPA!

The Sky Ain't Falling
But The G/O is Shaking

 

[Medeco]

My thoughts exactly!

But the company originally wanted DH reduced to 50%, but those dang ALPA negotiators refused to and then the company agreed to keep it at 100%! dang ALPA!

The Sky Ain't Falling
But The G/O is Shaking

I agree there are plenty who dont know the most recent TA's. But shame on the CNC/MEC for telling the company to shove it on the 50% DH offer, this will be our downfall.

Medeco

 

[ASARJMan]

I agree there are plenty who dont know the most recent TA's. But shame on the CNC/MEC for telling the company to shove it on the 50% DH offer, this will be our downfall.

Medeco

Really? Why do you feel that way? With the significant amount of scheduled DHs we have had the past few months, you don't think one should be paid for 100% of the scheduled flight time, but should be paid at 50%?

 

[Texx]

Really? Why do you feel that way? With the significant amount of scheduled DHs we have had the past few months, you don't think one should be paid for 100% of the scheduled flight time, but should be paid at 50%?

For May there is 245 hours approx. of DH, in each seat, for the ATL CRJ. And more on the 700.

 

[doh]

Came right out of this month's bid package. Our scheduling committee can't do anything about it, "it is legal" and happens all the time.

My point is only the waste that is inherent when your first goal is to undermine labor by routing seven Connection carriers through eachother's hubs.

Delta flying should be performed by Delta pilots.

And your point is spot on! It has nothing to do with what is in the shareholders' best interests. It is whatever management wants to optimise their power and control!

 

[ASARJMan]

And don't forget those "productive" 4 day trips where you sit in a hotel for 30+ hours, and then fly for 2-3 hours the last day! That CMI trip has been this way for months now, sitting there for something like 33-34 hours.

 

[SiuDude]

And don't forget those "productive" 4 day trips where you sit in a hotel for 30+ hours, and then fly for 2-3 hours the last day! That CMI trip has been this way for months now, sitting there for something like 33-34 hours.

We haven't been in CMI since last fall.