The difference between Skywest and Mesa??

[go!ng for broke]

Yes. It is that bad. Don't listen to the Mesa-bashers on fi . . . but listen to the 1000+ pilots who've left Mesa over the past 2-3 years.

If the "camping trips" are still going on, then Mesa isn't safe, it's a major accident waiting to happen.

Go somewhere else. ANYWHERE else. Especially now, since Mesa is on life support.

Do you have your apps out? Why not?

And you are not a mesa-basher because you don't get this "Quote" ??? Where is the difference?

 

[Skaff]

Why is it that people always blame the trouble of the airline to the one entity whose fiduciary responsibility is solely to the pilots rather than to the management group? Is it that they drink too much koolaid that they automatically think its always the union's fault? Just imagine how much worse Mesa would be if it wasn't for the pilots' union.

Did someone do that. Wasn't me. I was responding to Metro. In response to Metro, I said that Commutair wasn't a good enough reason to want ALPA. I admit that ALPA has redeeming qualities. Commutair isn't one of them. I also admit that Metro is lacking any sort of genitalia, it PM'd me to let me know...it calls it Metro-sexuality. I call it weird.

 

[go!ng for broke]

The difference... United handles Go! on Maui..

http://www.topix.com/forum/com/mesa/TE6NRKBL56D20HN2P

 

[Digger Dude]

A 5th year Mesa Capt flys a CRJ900 for one hour, he makes $69 bucks.

A 5th year SkyWest Capt flys a CRJ900 for one hour, he makes $69 bucks.

I guess the difference would be....

Also the 5th year SkyWest Capt. gets a bonus that has been $6-$9 per hr.

 

[Nevets]

Did someone do that. Wasn't me. I was responding to Metro. In response to Metro, I said that Commutair wasn't a good enough reason to want ALPA. I admit that ALPA has redeeming qualities. Commutair isn't one of them. I also admit that Metro is lacking any sort of genitalia, it PM'd me to let me know...it calls it Metro-sexuality. I call it weird.

"Commuteair wasn't a good enough reason to want ALPA." Commutair is not a redeeming quality of ALPA? What does that mean?

 

[Metro752]

NO CREWPASS
FOR SKYWEST AIRLINES PILOTS
THEIR MOTIVES ARE UNKNOWN
THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED

SORRY GUYS WHO WANTED ALPA​

 

[WalterSobchak]

This message is hidden because Metro752 is on your ignore list.

FlightInfo has never been better...

 

[Metro752]

Dude, lol, even though you can't see this.

John Goodman is a horrible actor, and his character Walter Sobchak, lol nice name, is a joke.

 

[waveflyer]

guys- management's at all levels have figured out that they can still make money if they fold older companies and start new ones to replace them, but pilots are so end-loaded - they can't-- management gets paid- pilots don't react to what's going and so don't get paid either....

unlimited whipsawing-- just one of many reasons i disagree w/ the type of flying "regionals" do these days.

 

[XPOO]

Differences between SkyWest and Mesa?

Mesa sleeps on purple plywood boards.
SkyWest does not.

Mesa loses money every quarter.
SkyWest does not.

Mesa is the worst performing regional in the country.
SkyWest is the best performing regional in the country.

Mesa stock is the most worthless in the regional industry.
SkyWest stock is the most valuable in the regional industry.

I could go on for days, but I'll stop this one right here.

 

[XPOO]

Dude, lol, even though you can't see this.

John Goodman is a horrible actor, and his character Walter Sobchak, lol nice name, is a joke.

So now your a gay-basher, too? Must be nice to live in your perfect world.

 

[time builder]

I haven't ever worked for either airline, but I've worked plenty around both.

What's the difference? Mesa pilots get screwed, even with a union. Skywest pilots seem pretty happy, and don't feel that giving 2% of their income to ALPA will make life any better for them.

Seems like most of the Skywest bashing comes from people who either didn't get hired or lost business to them.

Heck, the main common ground between Skywest and Mesa, their costs are low (or were, in the case of Mesa), and they are (or were) able to underbid others in the industry. It pi$$es people off, and then they come on to FI, calling Skywest "scabs" and all other kinds of names. There's a lot of Mesa bashing too, but much of that is actually coming from current and former Mesa pilots (that, and there is a much more factual base for the bashing, such as the "campouts").

Most Skywest bashers have an agenda. If Skywest were to unionize, it would level the playing field for other airlines. I wouldn't be opposed to this personally, but why should we pressure them to "give up" what is percieved to be the "upper hand?" If they're happy, let them be. If they're not, they can vote in a union or get another job.

Skywest isn't perfect, sure, I have mixed feelings about them (particularly when they go calling themselves a "major airline"), but I don't think they deserve near the controversy people try to strike up about them.

 

[XPOO]

United Airlines (sans UAX) - 1256 daily departures
SkyWest Airlines (as UAX) - 1132 daily departures

Delta Airlines (sans DCA) - 1500 daily departures
SkyWest, Inc. (as DCA) - 1314 daily departures

Midwest (can't find the numbers, sorry)

United Airlines (Total) - 3221 daily departures
Delta Airlines (Total) - 4077 daily departures
SkyWest, Inc. (Total) - 2530 daily departures

This shows that, though they are a regional airline, they are very much in line with most of the majors in terms of frequency, but obviously not compacity.

 

[WalterSobchak]

United Airlines (sans UAX) - 1256 daily departures
SkyWest Airlines (as UAX) - 1132 daily departures

Delta Airlines (sans DCA) - 1500 daily departures
SkyWest, Inc. (as DCA) - 1314 daily departures

Midwest (can't find the numbers, sorry)

United Airlines (Total) - 3221 daily departures
Delta Airlines (Total) - 4077 daily departures
SkyWest, Inc. (Total) - 2530 daily departures

This shows that, though they are a regional airline, they are very much in line with most of the majors in terms of frequency, but obviously not compacity.

Good ol' Wikipedia does a pretty good job of summing it up for us:

A Major carrier or more semantically correct, major airline carrier is a designation given by the United States Department of Transportation to U.S.-based airlines that post more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year.

The term "Major Carrier" is often misused. Major Carriers have $1 Billion annual revenue and fly aircraft greater than 100 seats. This often excludes regional carriers that meet the $1 Billion annual revenue requirement but do not fly larger aircraft. These airlines include:

• American Eagle Airlines
• ExpressJet
• Republic Airways Holdings
• Mesa Air Group
• SkyWest, Inc.(owns SkyWest and ASA)
• Comair
• Pinnacle Airlines Corp. [1](owns Colgan Air and Pinnacle Airlines)

 

[Metro752]

So now your a gay-basher, too? Must be nice to live in your perfect world.

Is it only the Skyworst dispatchers in here, being the biggest tools? The ones that couldn't hack it as pilots?


HOW IN GODS NAME DID YOU GET GAY BASHING OUT OF MY POST? Dude, lay off the crack, before you get a random testttt