The Best and Worse Regional Airline

[lindsaya99]

IN and OUT rocks, i need a double double animal style! any one hear of 5 GUYS? Its coming to the US Air terminal in DCA and can hold its own against In and OUT any day.

5 Guys? Didn't that chain start in San Francisco?

 

[pilotmyf]

Best airlines to work for:

Great Lakes
Mesa
Colgan
Skyway

Worst Airlines to work for:

Fedex
UPS
SWA
Jetblue
Airtran

Having fun with your GUMPS checks, and living the dream at 3500ft. Always trust a CFI for airline stuff, cmon, he went to a career fair.

 

[MesabaDriver]

My initial thought is that this is more bait for a classic Flightinfo thread; however, I'll be the first to take the serious bite.

AWAC because we don't have much to complain about (compared to most regionals). If you disagree, how often and how many AWAC threads do you see on this forum and others b!&ching about something?

GoJets...need I say more? Those choads actually think their betrayal of fellow pilots will not slow their career.

Mesa is a not-too-distant second in the worst category.

I seem to remember not too long ago, AWAC getting bent over by UAL and paying 125 milion or so take get flying at US Air. If all of us paid to secure our flying then it would be diffrent, but hey who's perfect right?. And didn't that 125 million partly come from your concessions taken around 2003 or so? Just curious. So the moral of the comment is who cares, it all rotates around the block every year. One year your the place to be and a few years later you are just another regional getting handled. Just look at us at Mesaba, great ariline, or atleast it used to be. We didnt even get kissed or asked out, we just got strapped down and handled. And wait till next week, then we will see how much we are going to give up.

 

[N311HK]

5 guys Burger & Fries rocks, it could be a distant 2nd or 3rd behind INO. There is one RIC

 

[ProLine4]

Wow, the thought of Whataburger vs. In-N-Out is almost incomprehensible. Thank god you never have to choose between the two. The only way I sleep at night is knowing when I'm on the West Side=Double Double, and when Im rollin South side=Bacon & Cheese Whatameal.

 

[jacksjj]

Chuck Norris once saw a bear. That bear was so scared that it fled into the arctic. Today, all the descendants of that bear have white fur.

 

[Mysteryofflight]

Chuck Norris once came upon a dying deer. He resuscitated it and then quickly killed it with a roundhouse just to prove that Chuck Norris giveth and Chuck Norris taketh away.

 

[hoover]

What is the Best Regional Airline to fly for and why?

What is the Worst Regional Airline to fly for and why?

It's a moot question. Today's best is tomorrow's worst. I offer Piedmont, Mesaba, and Chautauqua and AWAC as examples.

Piedmont: Mid '90's: Dash 8's, good pay, good contract, long upgrade. Then came Steve Wolf. No RJ's, concessions, no growth, longer upgrades.

Mesaba: 95-98: Growing like crazy, AVRO's, fast upgrades. 2005: bankruptcy, concessions, AVRO's gone, furloughs

Chautauqua: Mid '90's: podunk J31 and SF3 operator. 2005: Over 100 RJ's and EJets with decent pay/contract, short upgrade, lots of flying partners, good financials. Enjoy it while it lasts.

AWAC: 1990: Best in the business. 1993: Furloughs, concessions, 15 year upgrades, 2001: Industry leading contract, lots of growth, quick upgrades.
2005: Concessions, no growth, 146's gone, bases re-aligned. Just another regional.

Then of course there are some airlines that have always sucked: Mesa, TSA

 

[CA1900]

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.

 

[FlyBunny]

My initial thought is that this is more bait for a classic Flightinfo thread; however, I'll be the first to take the serious bite.

AWAC because we don't have much to complain about (compared to most regionals). If you disagree, how often and how many AWAC threads do you see on this forum and others b!&ching about something?

GoJets...need I say more? Those choads actually think their betrayal of fellow pilots will not slow their career.

Mesa is a not-too-distant second in the worst category.

Believe me it WON'T slow down their career...if anything, it would help it as they are already working for airlines and logging 121 turbine time!

Employment law would prohibit anyone from discriminating against those who flew for GoJet, etc. Of course if you or someone like yourself finds herself interviewing a previous GoJetter, you’d be able to discriminate against, let say, one or two times before your own job would be in question for discrimination and using your personal bias in lieu of the company’s established ‘hire’ rules based on law defined in by US Dept. of Labor and million other laws.

On the other hand, I know what you’re implying…how would someone from GoJet would be treated…well, once hired, and flying with another pilot, if this GoJet pilot has any exposure to CRM, she/he would be able to assert themselves and you’d find yourself heading back to training for a doze in CRM with a letter in your file.

Get over it, boys and girls!

Funny…it’s seems like SkyWest has been consistently voted as the best regional airline over and over, and they are non-union. Isn’t that the very core issue with you unionized girls and boys…isn’t it?

Look up the work ‘IRONY’ in dictionary.

By they way…define the word ‘choads’ for us…and if it’s not an English word/term, then please don’t use it here. Thanks!

Bunny

 

[Smarta$$]

Believe me it WON'T slow down their career...if anything, it would help it as they are already working for airlines and logging 121 turbine time!

Employment law would prohibit anyone from discriminating against those who flew for GoJet, etc. Of course if you or someone like yourself finds herself interviewing a previous GoJetter, you’d be able to discriminate against, let say, one or two times before your own job would be in question for discrimination and using your personal bias in lieu of the company’s established ‘hire’ rules based on law defined in by US Dept. of Labor and million other laws.

On the other hand, I know what you’re implying…how would someone from GoJet would be treated…well, once hired, and flying with another pilot, if this GoJet pilot has any exposure to CRM, she/he would be able to assert themselves and you’d find yourself heading back to training for a doze in CRM with a letter in your file.

Get over it, boys and girls!

Funny…it’s seems like SkyWest has been consistently voted as the best regional airline over and over, and they are non-union. Isn’t that the very core issue with you unionized girls and boys…isn’t it?

Look up the work ‘IRONY’ in dictionary.

By they way…define the word ‘choads’ for us…and if it’s not an English word/term, then please don’t use it here. Thanks!

Bunny

Very useless post. By the way, not being union is not the core issue. Remember, alter ego pilots taking jobs and growth from TSA pilots.

Also, there is nothing preventing gayjet pilot resumes from not being selected for an interview. Also, the lists of prospective pilot applicants that many majors post for review is another way for these homos to get screened out. Next is the interview process. Nothing says that a company has to interview or hire a certain number of pilots from any one company. If thier pilots dont have the same knowledge or a squeeky clean background they can be rejected. During my time at TSA before I got furloughed because of goatjet, I was in close proximity to many of gayjet pilots. I have to be honest, it looked like the most unprofessional, last chance, sorry group of pilots I have ever seen. I would not have hired them to drive a garbage truck.

You can say that I am making that up, but I can assure you that I am not. I have heard many others comment on the same thing, even on this board.

I still cant figure out if you really mean the inflamatory things that you say, or if you just like to stir the pot. Either way you have alot to learn about this profession, and what will become of it if gayjets ever became the norm. Luckily pilot groups everywhere are wiseing up and taking notice. For you gayjet pilots that think it will get better as time passes, It will not. The longer you exist in your current state the more pilots will notice and build contract protections to combat your types. Fedex and others have seen what backbone less pilots are willing to do and are taking action.

 

[Smarta$$]

Believe me it WON'T slow down their career...if anything, it would help it as they are already working for airlines and logging 121 turbine time!

Employment law would prohibit anyone from discriminating against those who flew for GoJet, etc. Of course if you or someone like yourself finds herself interviewing a previous GoJetter, you’d be able to discriminate against, let say, one or two times before your own job would be in question for discrimination and using your personal bias in lieu of the company’s established ‘hire’ rules based on law defined in by US Dept. of Labor and million other laws.

On the other hand, I know what you’re implying…how would someone from GoJet would be treated…well, once hired, and flying with another pilot, if this GoJet pilot has any exposure to CRM, she/he would be able to assert themselves and you’d find yourself heading back to training for a doze in CRM with a letter in your file.

Get over it, boys and girls!

Funny…it’s seems like SkyWest has been consistently voted as the best regional airline over and over, and they are non-union. Isn’t that the very core issue with you unionized girls and boys…isn’t it?

Look up the work ‘IRONY’ in dictionary.

By they way…define the word ‘choads’ for us…and if it’s not an English word/term, then please don’t use it here. Thanks!

Bunny

Oh, and by the way your a TOOL. Get some backbone and stand up for this profession. Try to improve our colective career instead of defending those who are a detriment.

 

[CA1900]

Believe me it WON'T slow down their career...if anything, it would help it as they are already working for airlines and logging 121 turbine time!

Right. Because we all know, the amount of 121 turbine time in someone's logbook is the only thing that matters when it comes time to look for a better job. The personality of the pilot and his propensity to stab his co-workers in the back has nothing at all to do with it. Uh-huh.

Employment law would prohibit anyone from discriminating against those who flew for GoJet, etc.

Citation, please? Oh, you can't, beacuse you made it up. Allow me:

• Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;
• the Equal Pay Act of 1963 (EPA), which protects men and women who perform substantially equal work in the same establishment from sex-based wage discrimination;
• the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA), which protects individuals who are 40 years of age or older;
• Title I and Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), which prohibit employment discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities in the private sector, and in state and local governments;
• Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibit discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities who work in the federal government; and
• the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which, among other things, provides monetary damages in cases of intentional employment discrimination.

Nothing at all in there about being a shameless whore.

Of course if you or someone like yourself finds herself interviewing a previous GoJetter, you’d be able to discriminate against, let say, one or two times before your own job would be in question for discrimination and using your personal bias in lieu of the company’s established ‘hire’ rules based on law defined in by US Dept. of Labor and million other laws.

Let's hear your "million other laws," please. Actually, if you could go ahead and just post that US Department of Labor law, that'd be fine.

Get over it, boys and girls!

Why should we? People who go work for a place like this have made it clear that they have no interest in working within the system. They'll stab their fellow pilots in the back to get that "quick upgrade," blissfully unaware that their actions to support such a company will cause those better jobs that they so covet to evaporate. They're their own worst enemies.

Funny…it’s seems like SkyWest has been consistently voted as the best regional airline over and over, and they are non-union.

If you honestly don't know the difference between a non-union carrier, and an alter-ego carrier created to do an end-run around a bargaining agreement, then you're hopeless.

By they way…define the word ‘choads’ for us…and if it’s not an English word/term, then please don’t use it here. Thanks!

Google is your friend. "EPR" isn't in the dictionary either, but it's not hard to find out what it means. If you can't find "choad," just find a GJ pilot for an example.

 

[BoilerUP]

CA1900, you are my new hero!
:beer:

 

[ContractFlyer]

Rejects Air is the worst......

 

[BLing]

Believe me it WON'T slow down their career...if anything, it would help it as they are already working for airlines and logging 121 turbine time!

Employment law would prohibit anyone from discriminating against those who flew for GoJet, etc. Of course if you or someone like yourself finds herself interviewing a previous GoJetter, you’d be able to discriminate against, let say, one or two times before your own job would be in question for discrimination and using your personal bias in lieu of the company’s established ‘hire’ rules based on law defined in by US Dept. of Labor and million other laws.

On the other hand, I know what you’re implying…how would someone from GoJet would be treated…well, once hired, and flying with another pilot, if this GoJet pilot has any exposure to CRM, she/he would be able to assert themselves and you’d find yourself heading back to training for a doze in CRM with a letter in your file.

Get over it, boys and girls!

Funny…it’s seems like SkyWest has been consistently voted as the best regional airline over and over, and they are non-union. Isn’t that the very core issue with you unionized girls and boys…isn’t it?

Look up the work ‘IRONY’ in dictionary.

By they way…define the word ‘choads’ for us…and if it’s not an English word/term, then please don’t use it here. Thanks!

Bunny

How could you possibly know the fate of being a GayJet pilot? Based on your profile the most valuable aviation experience you have has come from flying a Baron. Is it possible that you have a resume in with GayJets? Good luck with that. NOT!

 

[CA1900]

Maybe when he learns to spell "Baron," he'll be more qualified to comment on bigger things.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Chuck Norris can eat a Double Double and pull it out of his ass......

 

[pgcfii2002]

Somehow I see this turning into a PFT arguement.

 

[The_Russian]

I have read many of FlyBunny's posts.

He/she is an idiot. Possibly not a real pilot. Possibly a woman. Still an idiot.

 

[The_Russian]

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[CA1900]

Btw........


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[Mr Wu]

Btw........

Pft Pft Pft!!!!!!!!!!!

Did someone queef?

 

[skyta]

Chuck Norris likes little boys in pilot uniforms.

 

[fried chickens]

IN and OUT rocks, i need a double double animal style! any one hear of 5 GUYS? Its coming to the US Air terminal in DCA and can hold its own against In and OUT any day.

In N Out is way better than Whataburger but 5 guys has bacon and shrooms so they get the nod in my book.

 

[belchfire]

Maurice's BBQ in CAE.

End of discussion!

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Double-double, animal style, small fry, large Diet Coke, newspaper. Gotta love it.

 

[coltsfn8888]

Chuck Norris once killed five people in less than five seconds. Later on when speaking about the incident he said "God damn it, when Chuck Norris says he doesnt want girl scout cookies, Chuck Norris doesnt want girl scout cookies"

 

[TDK90]

In-N-Out...jeez, god

When he was 9, Chuck Norris went on a Snipe Hunt. He caught 58 of them, which he had stuffed and proudly keeps above his fireplace.

Legend has it Chuck Norris once ripped off his beard and donated it to Locks for Love. The lucky patients that received the hair transplants were able to eliminate their cancer by flexing for 30 minutes, just like Chuck.

 

[pilot05]

hands down, the best is blow Jet,

except for all the others including the lav dumping job.