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After being junior assigned over the weekend and getting my whole weekend screwed up by screw scheduling, all I wanted was to commute home and relax a little. Well, the mighty Saab 340 was overloaded like it always is and guess who was going to have to leave. However, the captain did an actual weight count by passing a piece of paper around and was able to keep me on the flight. (first time I've ever seen this) The flight was delayed anyway for MX and I'm sure that was the reason given for the delay. However, it was still VERY COOL for him to do that. He didn't have to. I will upgrade one day and will do everything in my power to return this favor. Keep in mind he knew I was a Trans States guy, too.

To the Captain of flight 3333 DFW-SPS, THANK YOU!!!

You represented your company well. Maybe there is still hope for this industry.
 
It's not to uncommon among the larger carriers, but for the commuter airline guys it's a big deal. More often on these little feeders you'll get some hot stick with airline goggles who thinks it's important to not let a commuter on just to make himself feel important.
Here's a solution: All the big airlines buy all the commuters and all the commuter pilots are stapled to the bottom with new titles:
Lance Captain and Lance FO. If there is ever a question you can just find a real Capatin or FO and have them override a decision. If there's ever a need to furlough, simply bump and flush the little turds out of the system until hirring resumes...yes, they would have to re-interview.
 
Probably not smart to list the airline, destination, and Flt# of the guy that helped you out. Your blabbing publicly how this captain is breaking company policy to get you home. He probably intended for it to stay on the down low. Not playing the rules can ruin things for everyone. There is a time place for thanks and this forum is not one.

You might consider removing the destination and flt# to spare those guys some future grief.

Just some thoughts from another commuter that relies exclusively on a Saab to get to work.
 
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flyn96 said:
Probably not smart to list the airline, destination, and Flt# of the guy that helped you out. Your blabbing publicly how this captain is breaking company policy to get you home at the expsense of paying pax. He probably intended for it to stay on the down low. Not playing the rules can ruin things for everyone. There is a time place for thanks and this forum is not one.

You might consider removing the destination and flt# to spare those guys some future grief.

Just some thoughts from another commuter that relies exclusively on a Saab to get to work.



The captain isn't breaking company policy.

I just asked my Eagle check airman friend about this. He said it's in their flight manual that they can do manual weights. It's just that no one ever does it.

FLY THE BOOK!
 
How was he breaking company policy? I don't know Eagle policy, but I seriously doubt that doing an actual-weight count is against the book. It's just a pain in the a$$ for the pilot that has to do it, but I would be happy to do it to get a fellow pilot on the jumpseat. What FAR or company policy was broken here?
 
It sounded like the Capt. put a MX delay to accomodate a Jumpseater from the post. That I'm quite sure that no company would be happy with that. That is what I ment from my post.
 
flyn96 said:
Probably not smart to list the airline, destination, and Flt# of the guy that helped you out. Your blabbing publicly how this captain is breaking company policy to get you home. He probably intended for it to stay on the down low. Not playing the rules can ruin things for everyone. There is a time place for thanks and this forum is not one.

You might consider removing the destination and flt# to spare those guys some future grief.

Just some thoughts from another commuter that relies exclusively on a Saab to get to work.

No dates are listed, so how are they gonna track him? check every flight? doubt it.
 
Also listing destination, flt#'s, and airlines probably isn't necessary. Whether or not any policies were broken listing specifics could get some people in trouble.

I appreciate all the favors that have been done for me in 5yrs working for the airlines and I always quietly thank the crew and that is all that necessary.
 
flyn96,

The original poster made mention that the flight had a legitimate maintenance delay. I think you are the only one here with any heartburn over the issue.

I think it's commendable that 210f8dog went out of his way to thank this captain. Not only does it create good will, but it EDUCATES other Eagle pilots that actual weights can be used in situations like this.

When I asked my Eagle buddy about it, he said using acutal weights is permitted in the flight manual, but no one ever does it. I know I've been left behind numerous times because of these new passenger weights. If a few more captains knew they had this authority, maybe travelling would be easier for those of us that nonrev.
 
Also listing destination, flt#'s, and airlines probably isn't necessary. Whether or not any policies were broken listing specifics could get some people in trouble.

Dude, you seriously need to lighten up. Head to Vegas and get you a Bravo Juliet. He did nothing wrong, broke no company policy. It was one guy helping another guy out, and the helped guy giving a big thanks. I hope like hell you're not a captain, b/c I feel sorry for your F/O's. Relax!! Go do some tai chi or something. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
Flyn is right. Unless you are an expert on the other company's policies and are absolutely sure you aren't causing the crew problems, it's best to leave the actual flight #/destination out.

It's still classy of the poster to thank him here, though.:)
 
I thought about possible implications. That's why there is no date mentioned, just in case. We have some former Eagle guys so I know the actual weight count is legit. We have that, too. It was just a routine MX delay, and while we were waiting, the Captain went out of his way to make sure I could get home. There were several miniature Germans and several young Air Force cadets on board so it was a good idea anyway.
 
EGL has cool Captains...

Eagle has some very excellent people working there...and this Cappy knew exactly what his limits were and what he could get yelled at for....ie., eg, he didn't give a cr@p about company policy to help you out.

Most EGL folks will do that. (Flowbacks excepted, but sometimes they are OK too.)
 
crashpad said:
It's not to uncommon among the larger carriers, but for the commuter airline guys it's a big deal. More often on these little feeders you'll get some hot stick with airline goggles who thinks it's important to not let a commuter on just to make himself feel important.
Here's a solution: All the big airlines buy all the commuters and all the commuter pilots are stapled to the bottom with new titles:
Lance Captain and Lance FO. If there is ever a question you can just find a real Capatin or FO and have them override a decision. If there's ever a need to furlough, simply bump and flush the little turds out of the system until hirring resumes...yes, they would have to re-interview.

lol...what a wizz butt.
 
Usually, when the gate agent tells us we have a jump-seater, we have no idea who they work for. If I can, I will try to accommodate any jump-seater that can get to my door.

I would say that no less than 80% of the times I jumpseat on other airlines, the Captain goes above and beyond to accommodate me. It is, in my case, my chance to return the favor to the industry.

Most Eagle pilots, or any airline pilot, would do the same. Most at Eagle don't know about the actual weight option. We know the cargo can be weighed, but we virtually never use actual passenger weights. This was a very creative answer that worked very well.

Kudos!
 
Kudo's for the thoughtful move to the Eagle guy. I just thought it would be kinda humorous if after the actual weight tally, the weight came out higher than using the averages.
 
210FR8DOG said:
After being junior assigned over the weekend and getting my whole weekend screwed up by screw scheduling, all I wanted was to commute home and relax a little. Well, the mighty Saab 340 was overloaded like it always is and guess who was going to have to leave. However, the captain did an actual weight count by passing a piece of paper around and was able to keep me on the flight. (first time I've ever seen this) The flight was delayed anyway for MX and I'm sure that was the reason given for the delay. However, it was still VERY COOL for him to do that. He didn't have to. I will upgrade one day and will do everything in my power to return this favor. Keep in mind he knew I was a Trans States guy, too.

To the Captain of flight 3333 DFW-SPS, THANK YOU!!!

You represented your company well. Maybe there is still hope for this industry.
I just want to congratulate you on getting to SPS. Man that's a sh1tty commute for such a small distance. Wish I was there right now buddy. And thanks to all the Eagle guys and former DFW ASA 120 drivers that have given me a lift home for all these years.

Rook
Looks like a high overcast.
Better ask for Type IV.
 

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