Thank you, Scott Hall

[CFI2766]

Here goes: Thank you Scott. I have every reason to believe that you are responsible for a change to an asinine TSA mandated procedure at ASA.

I don't really want to discuss the specifics, and if you work here (ASA) and read your email, and are an FO, you'll know what I'm talking about, but thank you.

Flame away if you must, but would this have happened under the prior regime?

 

[Smacktard]

Here goes: Thank you Scott. I have every reason to believe that you are responsible for a change to an asinine TSA mandated procedure at ASA.

I don't really want to discuss the specifics, and if you work here (ASA) and read your email, and are an FO, you'll know what I'm talking about, but thank you.

Flame away if you must, but would this have happened under the prior regime?

Send him an email, he reads them and responds!

 

[JoeMerchant]

As Smacktard said....send him an email and thank him...He will read it and respond....

That will counter the "no confidence" crowd.....

 

[flyboy06]

does this have to do with opening panels on pre flights?

We've been doing that at XJt for a few months now...sucks a$$...guess I'm a bomb tech now?

 

[Tarzan]

No, it looks better now. Less stuff to do.

However, I love opening panels when it's pouring rain and 35F. Since the unnamed panels are so much fun to open, I'll probably keep opening them because I like to snap on those gloves and ask the CA, WHOO'S YO DADY, BOOUUUY?

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Here goes: Thank you Scott. I have every reason to believe that you are responsible for a change to an asinine TSA mandated procedure at ASA.

I don't really want to discuss the specifics, and if you work here (ASA) and read your email, and are an FO, you'll know what I'm talking about, but thank you.

Flame away if you must, but would this have happened under the prior regime?

Yes, and I'm sure it was all his idea. He wasn't directed to do it by his bosses or anything. I heard he's working on a cure for cancer too...

 

[Medeco]

BOX,

I'd agree he is directed on certain things to do by CT and BH.

But, Scott is the one who visits the RGT classes every week and as he said ,recieves emails on this issue.

I'm guessing he ran it by CT who said yeah this is stupid lets try to fix it.

Scott deserves some credit.

Medeco

 

[Terry Hunter]

Wait until these panels and doors start ripping off in flight, due to the normal course of human involvement.

 

[Plainsman]

With so many changes comming down the pipe at this place does anyone understand what to claim and what not to claim as far as pay credits go. I know things are alot better but I don't trust them to pay me correctly when my trips change three or four times. Another thing about that 10 degree pitch bs, that sure doesn't help things when you are rolling and someone presses toga and everyone focuses on setting that back to 10 degrees on the way down the runway.

 

[Rally]

Since TSA is so good at raping pilots why don't they check the airplanes themself and put a "sticker" on the door (kinda like a red tag for a ramp check) "this aircraft has been checked by TSA....end of story.

 

[LearLove]

Since TSA is so good at raping pilots why don't they check the airplanes themself and put a "sticker" on the door (kinda like a red tag for a ramp check) "this aircraft has been checked by TSA....end of story.

do you really want thoes idiots touching your airplane?

 

[Long Time Gone]

Another thing about that 10 degree pitch bs, that sure doesn't help things when you are rolling and someone presses toga and everyone focuses on setting that back to 10 degrees on the way down the runway.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with hitting TOGA before taking the runway and reseting the pitch? This way you wouldn't have to deal with it when taking position.

 

[Plainsman]

On the flights I have been on we set it when we are moving into position, but the first thing we do is push toga when cleared for takeoff screwing the setting up.

 

[Regul8r]

Wait until these panels and doors start ripping off in flight, due to the normal course of human involvement.

Wouldn't be the first time. They make great FOD too

 

[CoATP]

... why don't they check the airplanes themself and put a "sticker" on the door ...

Actually it would be a paper strip that says "Sanitized for your Protection"

 

[CFI2766]

does this have to do with opening panels on pre flights?

We've been doing that at XJt for a few months now...sucks a$$...guess I'm a bomb tech now?

We've been complying with this TSA directive for a while, as well.

This goes to my point: If there is enough of a need for those procedures to be in place at all, why isn't there someone from the bomb squad stationed at every gate at the appropriate time for the required actions? Why is my personal safety, from either biological or explosive threats, less important? If these TSA mandated procedures were of a critical enough nature for these procedures to be issued, why wasn't I issued appropriate PPE to deal with the perceived, or actual, threat?

It certainly is possible that someone other than Scott was responsible in part for this change. However, the only one that I've seen even mention this, much less take any action, has been Scott. Soooo, sincere thanks to Mr. Hall.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with hitting TOGA before taking the runway and reseting the pitch?

Nothing as long as the GPS is working.

 

[wms]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but what's wrong with hitting TOGA before taking the runway and reseting the pitch? This way you wouldn't have to deal with it when taking position.

Nothing, that's the way we're doing it. You can always do the runway update with the FMS if it's that important to you.

 

[DX Rick]

It certainly is possible that someone other than Scott was responsible in part for this change. However, the only one that I've seen even mention this, much less take any action, has been Scott. Soooo, sincere thanks to Mr. Hall.

Get bent Glenn,
We've been doing this for the last couple of years. We just got a notice that if we don't, we're subject to a fine TSA up to $10k. The airline won't pay the fine for us.
Yeah, it's BS. But are you out there watching your FO doing the walk around? I'm no Walk Around God myself, but I've seen half the guys walk around while on the cell phone, or taking pictures of their new Jet they get to fly.
This way it actually makes the FO do the check atleast once a day. Might save you from a gear pin from being left in, because Junior didn't want to look.

At CVG we've had issues with a certain TSA agent putting FOD in panels, even hiding in the forward cargo on a 70/90. So you better watch out for that crap to when you're in town. They're trying to become the Chuck Norris of TSA.
Maybe Scotts not trying to make your life hell for actually having to do a walk around, but save you a fine that you can't afford because Mr. TSAHard-on is looking to bust a pilot.

 

[CFI2766]

Get bent Glenn,
We've been doing this for the last couple of years. We just got a notice that if we don't, we're subject to a fine TSA up to $10k. The airline won't pay the fine for us.
Yeah, it's BS. But are you out there watching your FO doing the walk around? I'm no Walk Around God myself, but I've seen half the guys walk around while on the cell phone, or taking pictures of their new Jet they get to fly.
This way it actually makes the FO do the check atleast once a day. Might save you from a gear pin from being left in, because Junior didn't want to look.

At CVG we've had issues with a certain TSA agent putting FOD in panels, even hiding in the forward cargo on a 70/90. So you better watch out for that crap to when you're in town. They're trying to become the Chuck Norris of TSA.
Maybe Scotts not trying to make your life hell for actually having to do a walk around, but save you a fine that you can't afford because Mr. TSAHard-on is looking to bust a pilot.

Get bent? Simmer down, would ya?

I wasn't talking about blowing off then entire preflight.

Ahhh, nevermind...

 

[mtsupilot376]

YEEAAAH! No more checking the poop chute! Woo Hoo! I can ditch my rubber glove stash!