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John Pennekamp

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Word is the ban on liquids and extra searches at the gate will become permanent.

Just when the TSA was getting ready to downsize and lay off more agents, they finds a way to re-invent themselves. Prepare for TSA hiring to begin!

Just when you thought they couldn't make a job in the airlines more of a hassle, they find a new way to inconvenience us and the passengers. Typical narrow minded knee jerk reaction for a threat that has been known since 1994.

I'm just glad I'm close to retirement. I feel sorry for you younguns who have a long time left.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Word is the ban on liquids and extra searches at the gate will become permanent.

Source? Reuters said on Friday it would likely be a temporary ban only.
 
BoilerUP said:
Source? Reuters said on Friday it would likely be a temporary ban only.

Heard it on CNN yesterday. Was during an interview with Mary Schiavo. Yes, I know she's a buffoon.
 
All the more reason to get out of this industry. Its such a ********************ing waste and totally not worth it. My advice to anyone and all who are thinking of becomming a pilot is run away!

I've been a pilot for 13 years and currently a entry level job at the TSA makes more then I do right now. ********************ing joke!
 
I heard our precious bodily fluids are gonna be banned.
 
Bdfg1 said:

Wow, you point out I was wrong so gleefilly, even though I only repeated what Mary Schiavo said last night on CNN, but that's ok, have it. Glad you have so much in your life that you live to prove an old fart bigmouth wrong.
So how was I "wrong". Where did it actually say they allow shampoo now? Looks like the only change is allowing medicine and tube lipstick.

Some Restrictions Eased at U.S. Airports
Some Restrictions Eased for U.S. Air Travelers, Others Toughened; 4 Ounces of Medicine OK

By JOHN HEILPRIN

WASHINGTON Aug 13, 2006 (AP)— Air travelers were handed new rules Sunday, given permission to carry small amounts of liquid nonprescription medicine onto a plane and instructed to remove their shoes during security checks.

The shoes have to be placed on an X-ray belt for screening before passengers can put them back on.

The eased restrictions on medicine and the mandatory shoe removal were among several measures the Transportation Security Administration ordered Sunday in response to the thwarted terror plot in Britain involving U.S.-bound airplanes.

TSA had previously banned all liquid medications; now it will allow up to 4 ounces of liquid nonprescription medicine.

The alleged conspirators had planned to blow up as many as 10 planes flying from Britain to the U.S. using liquid explosives, which TSA's security equipment can't detect in carryon luggage.

In other measures, TSA said it would let flyers carry on low blood sugar treatments including glucose gel for diabetics; solid lipstick; and baby food. But it said all aerosols are prohibited.

On Saturday, the TSA added mascara to the list of banned items, which includes baby teethers with gel or liquid inside, children's toys with gel inside and gel candles.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff reassured people things would only go so far.

"I don't see us moving to a total ban on hand baggage at this point," he told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday.

Chertoff said the government was putting "less emphasis on the nail clippers and the nail scissors" and more on training additional screeners "specifically to look for modern-type detonation equipment that might be concealed in baggage."

TSA said it wanted to remove any ambiguity from its procedures, particularly over the handling of shoes.

Until now, the agency has strongly suggested removing shoes for the screening belt, but hasn't required that.

Now, travelers must take them off before walking onto airplanes. Flyers can continue to wear shoes containing gel heels, but they must remove any sort of gel sole insert and put those into checked baggage.
 
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TSA are Idiots. Glad they have decided to overreact now to a threat that has been known of since 1994.

Looks like Bdfg1 is wrong.

TSA Adjusts Latest Ban Without Compromising Security

Press Office
Transportation Security Administration

August 13, 2006
(571) 227-2829

SECURITY LEVEL REMAINS THE SAME, TSA REFINES AND CLARIFIES BAN

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Small doses of liquid medications permitted
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Shoes removal required
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Low blood sugar treatments including glucose gel for diabetics permitted
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Clarifications include: aerosols prohibited, solid lipstick and baby food permitted.

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) today announced it will permit small doses of liquid medications through the security checkpoint and onboard airplanes, a refinement from the original ban, which was implemented on August 10. TSA will also now require all passengers to remove their shoes so they may be X-rayed with their carry-on bags to enhance efficiency in the screening process and eliminate confusion for travelers.

"I'd like to thank the American public for their patience and cooperation in observing the liquid, gel and aerosol ban," said Kip Hawley, TSA Assistant Secretary. "The refinements we are announcing are based on feedback from our security officers, the public and our partners. We are maintaining the same level of security while clarifying interpretations in the field. These tweaks are aimed at making a smoother process at the checkpoint."

The most significant changes to the security measures include mandatory shoe screening for all travelers and the admission of up to 4 oz. of non-prescription medicine. This refinement affords the same level of security that has been in place since last Thursday, but is intended to minimize the impact on travelers.

Travelers will continue to see an increase in visibility and use of canine detection teams. Random gate inspections and bag searches will continue. More information and further clarification on the ban will be offered via updated airport signs and in "Our Travelers " section.

TSA first implemented the ban on all liquids, gels and lotions as a precautionary measure, following the overseas arrests of a number of extremists engaged in a plot to destroy multiple passenger aircraft flying from the United Kingdom to the United States.

The nation’s threat level remains at Severe, or Red, for commercial flights originating in the United Kingdom bound for the United States. All other flights operating in or destined for the U.S. remain at High, or Orange.

TSA and the Department of Homeland Security will continue to evaluate the current security measures and will further adjust as necessary to assure our aviation system remains secure.

Travelers are reminded to contact their individual airlines for information on airport arrival times.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Word is the ban on liquids and extra searches at the gate will become permanent.

Still wrong there feller. If you did your homework(novel concept I know)you'd realize that Mary Schiavo has nothing to do with screening policies nor decisions. Screening procedures falls under the authority of the Department of Homeland Security which is under the direction of Michael Chertoff who from the very article I posted said they would not be permanent.

So try again.
 
Make sure that you use the restroom before you go through the TSA security checkpoint. Latest word is that they won't allow you through with a full bladder.
 
Bdfg1 said:
Still wrong there feller. If you did your homework(novel concept I know)you'd realize that Mary Schiavo has nothing to do with screening policies nor decisions. Screening procedures falls under the authority of the Department of Homeland Security which is under the direction of Michael Chertoff who from the very article I posted said they would not be permanent.

So try again.

Clearly, reading and comprehension are not your strong suits. Are you a product of the Alabama School System?

Go re-read. I never said Mary Schiavo was in charge of anything except shooting her mouth off on CNN when something bad happens. She used to be Inspector Genaral for the DOT. Now she's a "safety consultant".

Thanks for the civics less on who Chertoff is. Yes he said they would not be permanent. Do you trust him to stick by that statement? You may also re-read my post, directly from the TSA site that the only ban lifted is tube lipstick, liquid medication, and diabetic treatment. You posted before the announcement even came out.

Sorry, Sport, but you may want to wait until the actual announcement is made before you speak next time. Better to keep your mouth quiet and let us all wonder if you're a fool.
 
John Pennekamp said:
Sorry, Sport, but you may want to wait until the actual announcement is made before you speak next time. Better to keep your mouth quiet and let us all wonder if you're a fool.

Perhaps you should practice what you preach.

You have already shown your lack of credibility by quoting Mary Schiavo as what she says as fact then you slam her. Which is it?

Perhaps since you cannot understand the articles nor even the very words your speak since you constantly contradict yourself then perhaps some remedial English is in order. I'm not a teacher but have several friends who are and could offer you some help in this area.

You start a thread stating these procedures will be permanent based on something you heard from a person you discredit yourself but stand by her words when it is pointed out that Chertoff has stated this will not be the case.

"Go re-read. I never said Mary Schiavo was in charge of anything except shooting her mouth off on CNN when something bad happens. She used to be Inspector Genaral for the DOT. Now she's a "safety consultant". Point out where I stated you claimed she was in charge of anything? You simply made that up yourself to try and add a sliver of credibility to your statement(s).

"Yes he said they would not be permanent. Do you trust him to stick by that statement?" Never said I trusted the man to stand by his statement. However I would trust someone who heads up the DHS alot more than a "safety consultant". Appears you would rather take the word of a "safety consultant" over the head of an acting department.

Better luck next time buttercup.
 
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Flyers can continue to wear shoes containing gel heels, but they must remove any sort of gel sole insert and put those into checked baggage.


No more Dr. Scholls! I'm so not gellin...
 
Next time I go through security I'm going to vomit all over the TSA agent so they KNOW I'm not a threat to commercial aviation.
 

WASHINGTON Aug 13, 2006 (A/P)— Air travelers were handed a new sh1t sandwich Sunday, given permission to carry small amounts of the miracle remedy- Tussin- onto a plane and instructed to remove their shoes during security checks.

The shoes have to be placed on an X-ray belt for screening before passengers can put them back on, but certainly not until they contract athletes foot. Also, they must pour the Tussin into their shoes to prove that it isn't gel.

The eased restrictions on Tussin and the mandatory shoe test were among several measures the Transportation Security Administration brainstormed Sunday after all their mental power was exhausted in the effort to steal toiletry items from flight crew members.

TSA had previously banned all liquid medications; now it will allow up to 4 ounces of Tussin.

The alleged conspirators had planned to blow up as many as 10 planes flying from Britain to the U.S. using junk which TSA's security personnel would love to take home.

In other measures, TSA said it would let flyers carry on low blood sugar treatments including glucose gel for diabetics; solid lipstick; and baby food in a measure to keep passengers alive but comatose. It said all aerosols are prohibited even if asthma sufferers need it to live.

On Saturday, the TSA added mascara to the list of banned items, which includes baby teethers with gel or liquid inside, children's toys with gel inside and gel candles. These items are on virtually every TSA screeners Christmas wish list.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Jerctoff reassured people things would only go so far.

"I don't see us moving to a total ban on flying at this point," he told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday.

Jerctoff said the government was putting "less emphasis on the nail clippers and the nail scissors" since most screeners had enough of those to last centuries.

TSA said it wanted to remove any ambiguity from its procedures, even if it means changing the fundamental way they operate.

Until now, the agency has strongly suggested removing shoes for the screening belt, but hasn't required that. Except at most airports where the magnetometers are set so high,they are causing pacemakers to malfunction a mile a way.

Now, travelers must take them off before walking onto airplanes. Flyers can continue to wear shoes, but they must remove any sort of gel sole insert and put those into checked baggage. Flip flops are recommended.
 

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