Takeoff Procedures

[Velvet Jones]

I am doing a survey regarding takeoff procedures of multi-crew (Captain and F/O) operations.

At your company, who makes the takeoff?

During F/O takeoffs, who has the Power Levers/Throttles/Thrust Levers?

If the flying pilot does not have the Power Levers, how does crew coordination work during a Rejected Takoff?

Please share what equipment you fly and company if you can.

THANKS!
Velvet

 

[Dogwood]

I am doing a survey regarding takeoff procedures of multi-crew (Captain and F/O) operations.

At your company, who makes the takeoff?

During F/O takeoffs, who has the Power Levers/Throttles/Thrust Levers?

If the flying pilot does not have the Power Levers, how does crew coordination work during a Rejected Takoff?

Please share what equipment you fly and company if you can.

THANKS!
Velvet

Velvet,

At JetBlue (A320) and at my former carrier we fly alternate legs. Whomever is flying that leg, does the takeoff as usual. If the F/O is flying, he/she sets takeoff thrust, then removes their hand and it is replaced by the Capt. The Capt makes the reject/abort decision.

If this is the capts leg, he/she leaves their hand on the levers until V1(-5K).

DW

 

[PlaneDrvr]

Industry Standard

Velvet,

At JetBlue (A320) and at my former carrier we fly alternate legs. Whomever is flying that leg, does the takeoff as usual. If the F/O is flying, he/she sets takeoff thrust, then removes their hand and it is replaced by the Capt. The Capt makes the reject/abort decision.

If this is the capts leg, he/she leaves their hand on the levers until V1(-5K).

DW

This is pretty much "industry standard." It has pretty much been that way at all 9 carriers that I have worked for, over 21yrs. The only variation maybe who initially advances thrust/power levers, or sets thrust.

However, the Captain (PIC) is the "only" one who has the authority to 'reject/abort' a T.O.; this is what most (if not all) companies recognize, and most of all, this is what the FAA recognizes. Therefore, the Captain's hands must remain on the levers until T.O. decision speed (V1).

Not sure that you will find anything different at any company. Hope that helps.

DA

 

[AMRCostUnit]

I am doing a survey regarding takeoff procedures of multi-crew (Captain and F/O) operations.

At your company, who makes the takeoff?

During F/O takeoffs, who has the Power Levers/Throttles/Thrust Levers?

If the flying pilot does not have the Power Levers, how does crew coordination work during a Rejected Takoff?

Please share what equipment you fly and company if you can.

THANKS!
Velvet

At AA, we swap legs. So CA or FO could be making the TO.

CA always has the throttles during the roll. The FO will set T/O power on his/her leg and then the CA takes them over. CA makes the abort decision. Below 80kts, we can abort for anything ie: minor stuff like door light. Above 80 is it 4 things: Fire, Failure, Windshear, Feel the jet won't fly. (I call it "Fire, Failure, Fear or Shear" to remember it.)

If an abort is initiaited, the CA steers straight, the FO notes the speed, verbally note the speedbrakes deployed or not, and calls tower.

I fly the 737-800

Unit

 

[pilotyip]

At USA Jet the Captain handles the power levers on all takeoffs, F/O sets power on Captain's commmand and removes hands after power is set. Only Captain can make the abort decision and conduct the abort. F/O hold yoke until 80 kts in the DA-20

 

[snap145]

this is a bit off subject but please bear with me as my only jet time is in the Embraer Jungle Jet. Werent theyre some airlines years ago before FADEC systems and detents who actually had the PNF place his hand on top of the PF's hand as takeoff thrust was set??? I guess that doenst make much sense in that the flying pilot would have to remove his hand to rotate.....i know this sounds odd...i was told by someone that NWA and UAL used to do that on the 72.

 

[Gorilla]

Eww. No one is going to touch my hand on the throttles. Clasping hands as we roll...

There's no point in the FO continuing to hold the throttles after TO power is set. Better to guard their position with a hand well behind the idle detent - and be ready to run them full forward if there's a problem or the Captain does something stupid.

 

[ExpWayVis31]

Eww. No one is going to touch my hand on the throttles. Clasping hands as we roll...

On landing if both of you have your hands on the throttle then it is called a "coupled approach"

 

[AWACoff]

At Great Lakes, the PF guarded the thrust levers (late '90s). At AWAC, the captain guards them like previous posters companies.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

Eww. No one is going to touch my hand on the throttles. Clasping hands as we roll...

One guy once told me...."Look, there will be inadvertent touches in the cockpit....as long as we're not looking at each other when they happen...it's OK"

At "my house" we do it just like the AA guy described. Capt and F/O alternate legs. IF its the Capt's leg, he sets the thrust, then calls "Set Take off Thrust"...the F/O makes sure it is set and calls...."Set". The Capt then keeps his hands on the Thrust levers until the "Vee-Won" call...then his hands come off the Thrust levers.

IF it is the F/O's leg....the F/O get the Thrust levers up...then calls "Set Takeoff Thrust". The CApt then takes the Thrust levers and calls "Set".

At "my house" the Capt makes the go/no go decision

Usually, when starting a trip, the Capt flies the first leg, although I know of many who will ask if the F/O wants to start...

Tejas

 

[Charlie Brown]

On landing if both of you have your hands on the throttle then it is called a "coupled approach"

HAHAHA! Good one,