SWA to have a third aircraft?!?

[USAFftrplt]

Not a bone in the fight

I hardly ever make comments on here and I am not associated with either of the companys. I work for another airline.

I agree with Lear that the more you guys piss in each others cherio's the less tolerant your work force will be to get along and close the deal. Thus dragging this whole process out and potenitally squashing the whole deal.

Just remember something until the fat lady sings nothing is a done deal. It is all about money; and if the two labor forces dont come to an agreement management will at some point cut their losses. Dont be stupid! Shoot for the moon but reality better set in a some point!

I hate to say this but a staple (with all things considered) would be better than what AIrtran employees have right now.

For whatever its worth. Just an opinion, kinda like a--h-le-, everyone has one.

 

[Lear70]

SWA has required a type for several different reasons. One of the most important ones is they get a break on insurance because they have two "capts" up front. So this is not just a thing they do, they actually have a financial interest in requiring it. I guess SWA will determine the cost/loss of this requirement when it comes to the Trannies.

That's what I'm hearing, too. Not that it's decided yet, but it may still be on the table for discussion.

 

[Monkey Face]

Remind us all why SWA will "no longer attract the best candidates". This should be good....

Gladly! Remember the days when a type was required to interview?
When the other majors were hiring and some not coming to SWA, they changed the requirement to what it is now.

This type rating requirement costs SWA nothing! Its benefit for what ever reason is no longer valid. When SWA starts to lose good canditates because of this outdated requirement, you watch, they will change their postion to benefit SWA.

Those that paid for theirs, will just have to get over it! Besides, they already have some from Morris that were typed when they went through upgrade. I believe the precedence has been established.

 

[Ty Webb]

USAFfrtr- I was in complete agreement until I saw this :

I hate to say this but a staple (with all things considered) would be better than what AIrtran employees have right now.

For whatever its worth. Just an opinion, kinda like a--h-le-, everyone has one.

That's a very capricious statement. I'm a tenth-year Captain, and if I wanted to trade my seniority here in order to start over at the bottom of the SWA list, I would have done so a long time ago. This merger, while positive for both pilot groups, is not a voluntary decision, and our rights should not be abrogated haphazardly.

 

[Bob Dylan]

But I'm hearing you will be offered pay protection and no furlough clause. That's not exactly starting out at the bottom.

 

[orangebellyav8r]

"while positive for both pilot groups"


What is positive on the SW side?

 

[jonjuan]

Growth and movement, i.e. upgrades, versus the previous no growth and no upgrades. At least Gary seems to think so, but then again, what would he know?

 

[redflyer65]

What movement and growth?

 

[ivauir]

Growth and movement, i.e. upgrades, versus the previous no growth and no upgrades. At least Gary seems to think so, but then again, what would he know?

Jon,

Hopefully the combined company will enjoy opportunities that neither could have exploited alone. But the fact is Southwest has significant retirements pending, a powerful band, and a company with the capital and network to grow. Any growth opportunities would be far more accessible to Southwest than AirTran as independent companies, and any growth resulting from that acquisition is more of an additional benefit to AirTran pilots than it is to Southwest pilots.

Southwest's financial resources will bring opportunities that AirTran would not have been able to access by itself.

Growth in this environment is exceedingly difficult.

becoming more uncertain that AirTran had the ability to grow and remain competitive in an industry where the size of a carrier's route network is increasingly important

 

[Bob Dylan]

Boy, I sure agree with that post.

Southwest pilots are getting the shaft on this deal, especially the junior SWA pilots. AirTran pilots just hit the mega jackpot. Now, stapling the AT pilots to the SWA list would make this deal fair for bothe groups. Hopefully the AT guys will soon realize that.