Swa recall

[PCL_128]

Classy.

You really expect anything better from him?

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Oh, u got to meet Hugo. He's so full of feces, his eyes are brown. Personally, I can't believe that clown isn't in jail.

I was in a SWA jumpseat and the captain talked about how SWApA tried to recall him. I think it might have been a while ago though.

He seemed like he was in the know at Southwest. He talked as if he was best friends with the SWA CEO. He also seemed to imply that Southwest comes to him about all there business plans .

 

[maxblast72]

The tranny recalled 3 LEC members by a membership vote for following the C&BL's after the NC went out of bounds. Meanwhile, the other 4 LEC members that did the same thing got to stay. Go figure?

The 3 elected ATL MEC reps got recalled for not giving the pilot group the opportunity to be educated and get a chance to vote on SIA #1. The MEC instructed the MC to get the best deal possible and then proceeded to pull the rug out from under the MC and the pilot group. That was not totally unexpected as two reps did the same thing to the ATN NC with Contract 2010.

That is why the 3 ATL MEC reps were recalled less than 2 months after their vote in August and why ALPA is preparing to defend against a breach of DFR lawsuit at the current time. It is pretty surprising the MCO reps have kept their jobs through all this.

 

[BentOver]

Basically what happened at Netjets:

Recall was going through its' process.. 25% of recall petitioning was met. Next step would have been verifying signatures and then it would have gone to a membership vote where 50% of active members would have wanted the recall...

What happened however was the President (yes the one being recalled) put forth a motion that basically said that for a recall to proceed a majority of the EBoard would have to approve the charges against the President. (basically a Grand Jury type scenario)..

The kicker is 5 out of the 9 Eboard members are President supporters. So guess how they will vote on the motion??????? And then guess how they will vote on the charges?????

Forget the fact the 4 out of 9 Eboard members think the President is a terrible leader, and believe he has negatively embelished almost everything management has done.

Basically if you have 5 out of 9 buddies on the EBoard you can pass any motion you want and stay in office as long as you want.

 

[Lear70]

Sounds pretty fishy to me...

You don't put a motion on the floor during an active petition drive that will knowingly block said petition drive in violation of your own bylaws (assuming the bylaws don't also require what the president was proposing).

If your bylaws say he can do that, that's one thing. Otherwise, if he's trying to play a chess game and "cut you off at the pass" by changing the bylaws before the results of the recall petition can be submitted to the BoD, then I'd argue he's deliberately violating your C&BL's and I would petition the NMB to get involved.

If what he's doing is found to be illegal in terms of the RLA, there will be repercussions, including, in all likelihood, forcing the recall vote to go out if you've met the threshhold as previously-required under your un-modified By-Laws, others on here might be able to better describe the process of NMB oversight.

Just my take on it.

 

[BentOver]

Sounds pretty fishy to me...

You don't put a motion on the floor during an active petition drive that will knowingly block said petition drive in violation of your own bylaws (assuming the bylaws don't also require what the president was proposing).

If your bylaws say he can do that, that's one thing. Otherwise, if he's trying to play a chess game and "cut you off at the pass" by changing the bylaws before the results of the recall petition can be submitted to the BoD, then I'd argue he's deliberately violating your C&BL's and I would petition the NMB to get involved.

If what he's doing is found to be illegal in terms of the RLA, there will be repercussions, including, in all likelihood, forcing the recall vote to go out if you've met the threshhold as previously-required under your un-modified By-Laws, others on here might be able to better describe the process of NMB oversight.

Just my take on it.

He basically did what you propose. Created a Bylaw in the 11th hour to avert it ever going to vote. Almost immediately after the votes were handed in. (along with knowing he has the majority on his side (5-4).

And some have done exactly what you say. They have petitioned to have the NMB intervene.

I can accept it losing in a membership vote. But to have 5 guys bypass how it's supposed to work and eliminate 2500+ voters opinions is absurd.. Even the people who wrote the Bylaws say that the way it was written is NOT being followed.

And yes...very fishy