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I'm sure. All of the FOs on her no-fly list must be drowning their tears in Champagne.
Say what you want about Pilot Controlled Lighting, 122.80 but he knows his stuff.
We have all learned a lot from accident reports, they are a great learning tool. So it seems to me it would be a bigger mistake not to let all airline pilots in on what happened. I'm guessing your disgust is how the media will handle the info and twist it into a story.
What part of the recording should be available to the general public? Should it start at the before push and go all the way to the incident? What may be a learning tool for pilots is dirty laundry for the media.
Why is the f/o getting training? Are they going to train him how to wrestle the controls from the captain at low altitude? I'd hope SWAPA would be fighting that before worrying about the captain's job. Of course all of this is speculation as the NTSB has not finished their investigation yet.
So she can continue being a BA CA? Doubtful. My conspiracy is she is gone for good.Conspiracy Theory Alert: she was fired "prematurely" by the company so that the union can argue due process was not given and she gets her job back and the company and union pass the insurance/customer/membership smell check...
Chicago and Burbank were accidents......this was willful disregard of procedures.....a conscious choice.
I shouldn't speculate though until the investigation is complete. Did the FAA revoke her license or give a 709 ride? Good question which may leave her high and dry for the company having no choice.
As for "bid avoid"
I don't believe in it. And what happens when you do it, or call in- I get not wanting to put your own ticket at risk- but we need strong FOs to fly with these pilots, not reserves.
That's just how I feel about it. Somebody has to fly with them, why shouldn't I share in the pain and do what I can to make sure the airline's safe.
One reason I can think of, if a Captains no fly list gets long enough, he/she will get an invitation to the Chief pilots office. The company will be aware.
I disagree, it really is a pilot problem. Pilots need to make complaints to professional standards if there is a question of safety of flight. The problem with high avoidance bid captains is often a personality problem. I really don't want management anywhere near correcting personality deficiencies because it is at best a very subjective matter.This puts the problem where it belongs: Management. They may still sweep it under the rug. As was done in this case.
"Should" is the key word. Most pro standards have no ability to do as you suggest. All they can do is inform the pilot of his problem. It's a catch-22 though--the pilots who need a pro Stan discussion are the very pilots who could care less what they or the pilots they fly with think.If pro standards receives enough complaints about a pilot deviating from company procedures or FAR's then there should be a process set in place to correct those deficiencies or THEN recommend disciplinary action.
Some places. I heard at one airline they call the offending pilot in to discuss if there was any way they could "help" since their avoid list was long. At CAL they absolutely could care less. If they called in every pilot who had dozens of avoids they'd be doing nothing but talking to offending pilots all day every day.One reason I can think of, if a Captains no fly list gets long enough, he/she will get an invitation to the Chief pilots office. The company will be aware.
Chicago was tough
Burbank... ?? Crossed the threshold with the flaps blown up so...
That's where her case will be...what was the process and final decision with them. Albeit, Burbank is why we have the go around culture we do now.
As for "bid avoid"
I don't believe in it. And what happens when you do it, or call in- I get not wanting to put your own ticket at risk- but we need strong FOs to fly with these pilots, not reserves.
That's just how I feel about it. Somebody has to fly with them, why shouldn't I share in the pain and do what I can to make sure the airline's safe. Unless you think more incidents like LGA are good for your long term career