SWA Hiring?

[chase]

New hiring won't occur for awhile for the reasons stated. That doesn't mean there isn't good news on the horizon, short-term and long term.

51 round trip flights added back to the schedule in March. This won't take care of the overage by very many but that trend is in the right direction and the first announced increase of any size for sometime.

The maturing of the route structures on the east coast and the additional of the S. Florida airport in May will cause some more gains...not huge but a trend upward.

There is always the possibility of new routes to Mexico or the Caribbean if SWA management wishes to test the waters....certainly the pilots are ready to do that.

Still lots of uncertainty with the middle east still brewing, the impact of the Obama administration deficits and impacts on borrowing/debt service by airlines who have some huge payments to make in 2010, cap/trade legislation that will raise the cost of energy and much more.

SWA will finish off paying its debt for the fuel hedges in '10 which is good.

A difficult time to make money in the industry but a few are making it and congrats to them and their employees.

SWA has some bright folks in the pilot group and management that can hopefully find the sweet spot for generating additional revenue....that has always been a strength for the company. Furloughs are a possibility in any scenario but I believe SWA is minimizing the risk to use that option and would only after all other options have been exercised. That is something I'm confident in saying that most airline management teams don't subscribe to.

Cheers

 

[Accett16]

Chase -- I get the realistic view, but what about the optimist. F9/Republic sells 10 gates and United sells 10 gates. New SWA pilot base -- Denver with family ski packages and the poolies are the leading edge of a fantastic hiring boom. Sorry, democrats in the WH. Good Luck to the poolies.

 

[waveflyer]

ATA smartbrief believes Vancouver and Calgary not far off. And rumor has it there could be some draining of the pool as soon as the end of the year. To me the optimists have it- there's just a lot of opportunity out there- might not happen as quick as we'd like- but it's still a very well run airline. Everyone keeps fighting- and I see good things coming. But plan for the worst- budget to be able to live a year on unemployment and sock the rest away- if you end up with more cash when wn starts growing again- that's a good thing.

 

[TZtoSWA]

I was talking to the asst. chief of my domicile recently and he brought up furloughs being a possibility. Could have been a fear grenade to influence the TA 2 vote but I think more than likely not. I am afraid the poolies won't be exiting anytime soon and there ain't gonna be any interviewing either. I have taken a pay cut and watched my bidding power go down the last few months from all these shoulder cuts. On the bright side, this prolonged era of no hiring might mean they flush the interview team and start over with a new one in a couple of years when we resume.

 

[Captzaahlie]

I was talking to the asst. chief of my domicile recently and he brought up furloughs being a possibility. Could have been a fear grenade to influence the TA 2 vote but I think more than likely not. I am afraid the poolies won't be exiting anytime soon and there ain't gonna be any interviewing either. I have taken a pay cut and watched my bidding power go down the last few months from all these shoulder cuts. On the bright side, this prolonged era of no hiring might mean they flush the interview team and start over with a new one in a couple of years when we resume.

Awe whats wrong with Lindsey, she seemed kind of sweet to me?
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[RedDogC130]

I was talking to the asst. chief of my domicileQUOTE]


Well that was your first fcking mistake.....

 

[fugghedabowdit]

They are offering FAs monthly leaves and daily leaves, have been for awhile now. I would imagine we would be offered a similar deal before actual furloughs.

 

[Whataburger]

They are offering FAs monthly leaves and daily leaves, have been for awhile now. I would imagine we would be offered a similar deal before actual furloughs.

I agree. In addition, relief from minimum line values.

 

[SIU 130]

Also they are likely to ask the military guys to take as much military time as they can during the first quarter of 2010. They did that last year, much to my surprise. The company decided not to extend the companies policy of 5 year voluntary MILOA to 7 years. I scratch my head on the decision especially in these tough economic times when you are FAT on pilots and we are waiting for the 60 year olds to turn 65. That decision may change in the near future.

 

[firstthird]

The union has been asking them about extending the userra limits and whatnot, so far they have gotten nowhere. company needs to realize that you can't just get 3 or 4 year orders, it takes time. thus, if they are going to give some relief prior to some future manning issue, they need to do it now, not a month prior to the axe falling.

 

[SELFloadingCRGO]

I personally don't see a furlough but then again the kool-aid sure is good. The process should go, ask for military leaves, offer voluntary furloughs, then on to asking for reduced line guarantees from everyone to keep people on property. The last has been done before and when I made mention of it a while back not one person responded saying they would do it. So I'll ask again, you guys gonna step up so we don't put people on the street? Or has things changed from taking care of each other and our junior folks?


SLC

 

[SIU 130]

Right now I'm on Mil Leave but will need to come back soon. I am in favor of doing what ever it takes to keep everyone employed.

I bet you if this were to happen NO ONE would encourage the 60+ guys to retire/ take a LOA before they asked the Mil guys to help out, reduce lines, etc. If we are 300+ pilots FAT and their are 250 guys age 60+ I see where the problem is. But it is the law and we can't change it. They (60+) will be glad they still have a job and will feel sorry for those that are not recieving a pay check.

Buddy of mine is receiving a third of his pay each year to take a LOA for up to three years from ExJet. That has help prevented putting people on the street and helps boost moral as opposed to the F-word. Great Idea!

 

[Hawker dude]

kind of ironic that SWA is the one that pushed the hardest for age 65 now it seems as though they regret it.

 

[Whataburger]

kind of ironic that SWA is the one that pushed the hardest for age 65 now it seems as though they regret it.

Those that pushed for it don't regret. The rest of us are counting the days.

 

[Sandhawk]

Those that pushed for it don't regret. The rest of us are counting the days.

That applies to ALL airlines.............

GTFOOMSYGOB !!!


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