Suze Orman advice

[Snakum]

Interviewing applicants as a manager in many manufacturing and IT organizations, I quickly learned that a college degree merely means you went to college. Nothing more. Even now, half my Developers have degrees ... half don't. No difference.

 

[suupah]

suupah, your are generally correct because almost everyone has a degree, but your observation is not universal, I can name you many bullet brained pilots with college degrees who could not balance a checkbook, and likewise I can show a bunch of pilot without degrees who score above the degreed guys on basic intelligence tests and demonstrate superior headwork day in and day out. Bottom line the degree is no guarantee of superior intelligence.

I don't think degree means intelligence. degree just means education.

 

[pilotyip]

degree equals certificate of completion of a course of study, some are good, some are pay your fee get your B.

 

[EatinRamen]

I have no regerts spending what I did at Riddle. I learned to fly, got a degree, and had a great time doing it. Sure I'm making 20K now... but it'll get better. I have to start somewhere to get the turbine time and experience I need to get to the higher paying jobs. Just like a doctor or a lawyer has to start small till they can make a substantial wage.

No regrets here. I'm doing what I always wanted to do.

 

[Hootie9750]

I have no regerts spending what I did at Riddle. Just like a doctor or a lawyer has to start small till they can make a substantial wage.

Dude you are clueless. I had three buds just graduate from law school last may and they all started 65k+. My cousin has been a lawyer for 12 years and she pulls down 350k and works from home 80% of the time. Comparing that to 20k and after ten years making 70k...wtf?? You can manage a village inn pancake house and clear 6 figures.

 

[CopilotDoug]

I have no regerts spending what I did at Riddle. I learned to fly, got a degree, and had a great time doing it. Sure I'm making 20K now... but it'll get better. I have to start somewhere to get the turbine time and experience I need to get to the higher paying jobs. Just like a doctor or a lawyer has to start small till they can make a substantial wage.

No regrets here. I'm doing what I always wanted to do.

About 108% sure this is flame bait

 

[pilotyip]

Eatinramne, you sound like you have it figured out. Don't lets the negative vibes on this board get you down. Get you MEL flight time and get out of regional flying. Get a job that has some real PIC time.

 

[imacdog]

Yip, why doesn't regional flying have real PIC time?

 

[EatinRamen]

Dude you are clueless. I had three buds just graduate from law school last may and they all started 65k+. My cousin has been a lawyer for 12 years and she pulls down 350k and works from home 80% of the time. Comparing that to 20k and after ten years making 70k...wtf?? You can manage a village inn pancake house and clear 6 figures.

Yeah but I wouldn't be happy managing an IHOP or stealing money as a lawyer. I'm not clueless, just realisitc. I have 12-14 days off a month, I travel for free, and I love my job. My investment is worth it... and that's MY opinion. Would it have been cheaper for me to get my ratings at an FBO... sure. But it was my decision to go to Riddle. Again, no regrets here.

 

[pilotyip]

ima, depends upon which regional I hear 5-6 years at some to get PIC

 

[suupah]

Yeah but I wouldn't be happy managing an IHOP or stealing money as a lawyer. I'm not clueless, just realisitc. I have 12-14 days off a month, I travel for free, and I love my job. My investment is worth it... and that's MY opinion. Would it have been cheaper for me to get my ratings at an FBO... sure. But it was my decision to go to Riddle. Again, no regrets here.

dude look at your screen name. You are a ramen eater! It leads me to believe that aviation is not a career, it is not a hobby, it is not a passion It is a sick sick sick addiction. We are willing to spend 100k on education, move to some city we hate, kiss a lot of a$$ and spend most of our time aways from loved ones just to make poverty wages and eat ramen!

Dang someone needs to go on dr phil and see what he says about us lunatics that fly planes

 

[suupah]

I have no regerts spending what I did at Riddle. I learned to fly, got a degree, and had a great time doing it. Sure I'm making 20K now... but it'll get better. I have to start somewhere to get the turbine time and experience I need to get to the higher paying jobs. Just like a doctor or a lawyer has to start small till they can make a substantial wage.

No regrets here. I'm doing what I always wanted to do.

I hate it that people compare us to dr. and lawyers. we are not in that category. We are skilled labor. nothing more

 

[Sawmill]

What the heck is wrong with everyone here..or on this site for that matter trying to convince others how bad the regionals or flying for a living is? How many people on here have careers as school teachers or janitors or car salesmen? None you say? (I understand this is an aviation site but just go with me here) Pilots are not the in the above professions because they have choosen not to be these other fine professions. It is all a mater of personal preference. I was a chemist before I decided I wanted to be a general contractor before I decided I wanted to be an airline pilot. After all that, I have realized being an airline pilot is not for me..and it is not because any of you talked me into changing careers. If EatinRamen feels that he has reached his(her) dream job and is happy (enough) with the negatives of the job, why would you try to talk him/her out of it? It is pointless. All careers/jobs ave their good points and their bad points. If the job is not for you, dont do it...Im not trying to talk you into flying or out of flying...if I was, would you honestly listen to me? This world takes all kinds of people...and some of them want to be airline pilots...some dont. As for me, I am back doing one of the above mentioned careers and enjoy flying in my little prop, which by the way, I find more fulfilling than flying a CRJ. I am happy with my choices...are you now going to try to change my mind? Feel free to try but if you think about it, it is quite honestly a complete wast of your time.

 

[Sawmill]

Is not every job really skilled labor though? I bet you could not go pump a septic tank or diagnos an illness without some skill and training.

 

[suupah]

Is not every job really skilled labor though?

I suppose you are right about that one. But I think with airlines we forget that it is a business. We are a component of their business. Airlines are there to make money. We are skilled labor and as long as there are five billion pilots out there our market value is low and our quality of life will not improve.

 

[Sawmill]

I could not agree with you more suupah!

 

[satpak77]

degree equals certificate of completion of a course of study, some are good, some are pay your fee get your B.

As does "Commercial ticket"

 

[pilotyip]

Sawmill stop dealing in reality it does not fit on a pilot board.

 

[CopilotDoug]

I agree with Sawmill; to each their own. Adrenaline junkies need the "rush" in order to be happy and pilots need to be flying in order to be happy. Everybody has something that motivates them and makes them tic. It's just the way we're wired.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Well thats all doom and gloom, however I spent 54k on flt school, made 30k my first yr with a regional and will make over 40k in yr 2 and have only flown 200 hrs this year. Im sure Im not the only one out there with a positive story. Try and seek out the good stuff, I think everyone would be surprised what they find

Positive story ? Did you fail math or something ???

Wow...speechless I am.

 

[pilotyip]

RCA ignore turbojet, you have the right idea, you have the right attitide, you are going to make it. Ignore all the negative vibes you see hee, they do not reflect the reality of guys who love flying airplanes. Fly because you like to, it will wrok out with te impending world wide pilot shortage over the next 20 years.