Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

Surface Incident Awareness Month

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web

atl pilot

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 2, 2007
Posts
191
At ATL Tower we just had an internal memo put out that announced March as Surface Incident Awareness Month. In a nutshell, the facility managers at ATL, LAX, DET, ORD, EWR, LAS, and DFW, are trying to improve runway safety by improving the quality of hold short read backs. When an incorrect or incomplete readback is recieved, they have mandated that we will write down your call sign, date, time, and what was done incorrectly on a standardizaed form. When I asked what would happen to these forms, I was told that they will be turned over to your airlines, the airports, and other interested parties.
In order to keep you out of trouble in more than one manner, let's review what we (controllers) need to hear, so that your name does not appear on any of these lists, at any of these facilities:
A) Your call sign
B) The words HOLD SHORT
C) The entire runway name (no short cuts), example: "Runway 2-7-Right."
Also when given a taxi instruction to a runway, you must read back the runway assignment, and any hold short instructions attached to the clearance. Remember that if you get a simple "Taxi to Runway 27R" clearance that this in a sense is also a form of hold short clearance, because you may taxi to the runway but may not cross it.
Let's all try to keep these lists really short. Maybe it will keep you out of trouble and also help prevent you from having a runway incident! Please pass this on, I would love to not have to write any down this month!!!

And BTW, the controllers are not getting off scott-free either, they are doing random tape audits on us as well (1) making sure we are using correct phraesology, and (2) ensuring that we ensure that you've given us a correct read back - so if we let you slide then were at fault too!

Help us to keep you safe!!
 
Last edited:
I'm a little confused on what constitutes a surface incident. I'm well aware of, and in total agreement with, the need to protect all active runways from inadvertent encroachment, however what's the status of a minor taxiing slip up? e.g. You are told to transition to B via A8 and wind up taxiing by 8 and going via A9, is that an automatic surface incident? Sounds CS I know but there's a Fed who claims that it is and I'm curious.
 
ATL pilot....just what we need is to have to fill out a form now. Thankfully we don't have too many crossings at ORD!
 

Latest posts

Latest resources

Back
Top