Support the Nations Air Traffic Controllers

[Lrjtcaptain]

LOL! You sound like "Opie" from the Andy Griffith show.

Very shortly, your little pompous world is going to get biatch-slapped with a reality check.

Open your arrogant, know-it-all eyes Hold and see the worldwide aviation industry crumbling around you. Why do you think cuts wouldn't also affect those in aviation support roles? That's right Hold ... you're just a jockstrap supporting the aviation "package"! Your pathetic bluster of mass retirements putting the hurt on the system is beyond laughable. :laugh:

I can't wait for tomorrow and the sound of Hold singing "Moon River"! Gawd, I crack myself up!!

BBB

This guy is an idiot. What does the rest of the aviation world have to do with us? Pilot cuts are due to the fact airlines can't and don't make any money. We aren't in the private sector and our battle on the contract isn't 100% concerned with $. The FAA keeps getting budget increases from congress and the FAA turns it down. NATCA's version of the contract would save the taxpayer 1.4billion over the life of the contract so at least we as NATCA are trying. The FAA is just a union buster and thats that. As for someones post up higher about not having a chance to win this. We actually have a very good chance in my opinion. WE have bipartisan support, The Grassroots campaigning has been well done, and I think most of congress can see past the FAA's lies. The work rules they want to impose are complete B.S. You all make comments like "we are all in this together" hence airlines are going down hill and we shall too. Negative. We are not a business, we are paid with taxes, there is no profit, we have a budget. The FAA never intended to implement all the modernazation they claim they were going to. They want to lower our moral and higher more supervisors, and hire CTI students for substandard wages. I appreciate everyones support, but you can't look at our side of this industry and compare it to the user.

MK

 

[smellthejeta]

This fight is one in which I have a dog. For those of you who think ATC guys should just bend over airline-style, I say bring it on. I haven't entered the academy yet (thank god) and if we get what BBB wants us to get, I'll just find another job. Every single pilot out there forgets that when ATC falls to pieces and delays significantly increase, that THEY are the ones explaining the delays to the multi-million dollar boss they are employed by. THEY are the ones missing their commute home home (ANOTHER night on the road), and THEY are the ones who will get additional furloughs and paycuts because the ATC-driven delays are further increasing the losses the airlines are incurring.

If this contract is implemented, as a potential employee, I am the least affected. For those reasons, I'm not to worried about big mouths like BBB. They can have their cake and eat it too.

Lrjet, it's going to be real interesting to see how this CTI thing plays out. When I started the program in '04, the classes just weren't that big. The community college I attended was the fourth largest program in terms of graduates in the country. We graduated a whopping 25 students a semester at most. There's a college in Virginia, that at one point had ONE ATC CTI student.

In the spring of '05 (IIRC) Flying magazine ran a huge PR/ad/"Informational" on the ATC career. They were trumpeting the size of the pay check we get. One of the other guys around here just graduated from the same program I went to. He says everybody is dropping like flies. MOST ATC students are also pilots, and EVERY single pilot-controller I know will go fly airplanes before they control airplanes for the same pay. My point is, I just wonder how strong of a source CTI programs will be.