Super Secret Sick-Out and Fatigue Festival

[se1776]

Atlantic Southeast management is requesting and strongly encouraging that all pilots either call in sick or fatigued during the next 9 days before the current vacancy bid closes. Atlantic Southeast management wants to ensure that we upgrade the correct number of captains in the event of future pilot shortages or pilot overworking. Therfore, if you can spare an occurrence or a mild browbeating, please participate in the festivities.

Sincerely,
Atlantic Southeast Management

idiots...

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Just haven't gotten to it yet because my crappy AT&T service keeps dropping my calls.

Stop holding the phone that way...

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

The Atlantic Southeast pilot group, overall, is a truly outstanding collection of aviation professionals.


Ummm,

I got a few stories from my two years there that would contradict that statement.

There was a speed restriction of 250 kts next to a 9,000 crossing restriction and the Captain I was flying with asked if I could call to see if ATC needed the speed. I told him it was below 10,000', and he still made me call. Good times.

Captain was hand flying the aircraft into DFW on a beautiful VFR day. We were getting vectored all around and slowed to 250 kts. As our number came up, ACT told us to pick the speed up to 310. As we stabilized at our new speed I could tell the Captain saw something he didn't like. He didn't say anything, but he kept glancing around the cockpit cross checking everything. I finally asked him what the problem was. He said that his attitude indicator was not working correctly. I scanned my PFD, then his, then the standby. They all were showing the same thing. Since we were VFR, we were able to cross check it with the "big attitude indicator" out our windows and it too was the same. He then went on to tell me that at 250 kts it took X degrees on pitch to hold altitude, and now at 310 kts it was taking far less pitch to hold altitude. At first I figured he was just joking with me, but after a few minutes of discussion I realized he really didn't understand why different speeds required different pitches to hold altitude. I tried to explain it to him for about 15 minutes, but he was convinced that something was wrong and was going to write up his AHRS on arrival into DFW. I told him he would need to write mine up also, since it was doing the same thing. Upon arrival into DFW, the Captain called maintenance and did just that, write up both AHRS.

There are more stories, but those two still stand out in my mind.

Now, most of the ASA pilots I flew with were good, but every company has it's 5%, I guess I just got to fly with them at ASA.

ex-ASA

 

[Redan]

The Atlantic Southeast pilot group, overall, is a truly outstanding collection of aviation professionals.


Ummm,

I got a few stories from my two years there that would contradict that statement.

There was a speed restriction of 250 kts next to a 9,000 crossing restriction and the Captain I was flying with asked if I could call to see if ATC needed the speed. I told him it was below 10,000', and he still made me call. Good times.

Captain was hand flying the aircraft into DFW on a beautiful VFR day. We were getting vectored all around and slowed to 250 kts. As our number came up, ACT told us to pick the speed up to 310. As we stabilized at our new speed I could tell the Captain saw something he didn't like. He didn't say anything, but he kept glancing around the cockpit cross checking everything. I finally asked him what the problem was. He said that his attitude indicator was not working correctly. I scanned my PFD, then his, then the standby. They all were showing the same thing. Since we were VFR, we were able to cross check it with the "big attitude indicator" out our windows and it too was the same. He then went on to tell me that at 250 kts it took X degrees on pitch to hold altitude, and now at 310 kts it was taking far less pitch to hold altitude. At first I figured he was just joking with me, but after a few minutes of discussion I realized he really didn't understand why different speeds required different pitches to hold altitude. I tried to explain it to him for about 15 minutes, but he was convinced that something was wrong and was going to write up his AHRS on arrival into DFW. I told him he would need to write mine up also, since it was doing the same thing. Upon arrival into DFW, the Captain called maintenance and did just that, write up both AHRS.

There are more stories, but those two still stand out in my mind.

Now, most of the ASA pilots I flew with were good, but every company has it's 5%, I guess I just got to fly with them at ASA.

ex-ASA

Congrats on your escape from ASA

 

[79%N1]

The Atlantic Southeast pilot group, overall, is a truly outstanding collection of aviation professionals.


Ummm,

I got a few stories from my two years there that would contradict that statement.

There was a speed restriction of 250 kts next to a 9,000 crossing restriction and the Captain I was flying with asked if I could call to see if ATC needed the speed. I told him it was below 10,000', and he still made me call. Good times.

Captain was hand flying the aircraft into DFW on a beautiful VFR day. We were getting vectored all around and slowed to 250 kts. As our number came up, ACT told us to pick the speed up to 310. As we stabilized at our new speed I could tell the Captain saw something he didn't like. He didn't say anything, but he kept glancing around the cockpit cross checking everything. I finally asked him what the problem was. He said that his attitude indicator was not working correctly. I scanned my PFD, then his, then the standby. They all were showing the same thing. Since we were VFR, we were able to cross check it with the "big attitude indicator" out our windows and it too was the same. He then went on to tell me that at 250 kts it took X degrees on pitch to hold altitude, and now at 310 kts it was taking far less pitch to hold altitude. At first I figured he was just joking with me, but after a few minutes of discussion I realized he really didn't understand why different speeds required different pitches to hold altitude. I tried to explain it to him for about 15 minutes, but he was convinced that something was wrong and was going to write up his AHRS on arrival into DFW. I told him he would need to write mine up also, since it was doing the same thing. Upon arrival into DFW, the Captain called maintenance and did just that, write up both AHRS.

There are more stories, but those two still stand out in my mind.

Now, most of the ASA pilots I flew with were good, but every company has it's 5%, I guess I just got to fly with them at ASA.

ex-ASA

So you had a couple of idiots or guys that had a brain fart one day (maybe they were tired, overworked or had a fight with the wife?) and that taints the ASA pilot group as a whole in your opinion??? The whole company now cannot be classified as outstanding professionals because a couple guys goofed up one day? And you are perfect, too, I suppose? Remember, ASA flies about 325,000 flights per year and you base your "um...I don't think so on this one guy in Dallas a few years ago........"

Nice.

 

[spudskier]

So you had a couple of idiots or guys that had a brain fart one day (maybe they were tired, overworked or had a fight with the wife?) and that taints the ASA pilot group as a whole in your opinion??? The whole company now cannot be classified as outstanding professionals because a couple guys goofed up one day? And you are perfect, too, I suppose? Remember, ASA flies about 325,000 flights per year and you base your "um...I don't think so on this one guy in Dallas a few years ago........"

Nice.

Completely agree... we've got more than our fair share of dum-dums at ASA (including the guy that freaked when we lost the FMS and actually had to use the enroute charts... actual question->"How do we know when to switch from one VOR to the next!? The course will automatically set itself right?") but the majority are knowledgeable, competent, safe pilots who I'm comfortable flying with (even though some irritate the hell outta me)

 

[No Delay]

Hey, we have some great pilots here at ASA!



Anyway, what did you mean by VOR? What's a VOR?

 

[jdubya]

I always get a kick out of these discussions. Sure, there are good guys at every airline, and some are way better than others. Also, don't even try to compare regionals with a major.
But, the type of people at regionals especially ASA is pretty bad. It's just a sign of the times, the last decade.
Most common quote from an ASA pilot: "we have the best pilot group out there", of course they can't compare it to any other group as they have never been any where else.
I flew with some quality people there, but as a whole, they were the most inept bunch I've ever seen and I know several Captains there that say the same thing.
Now let the kool-aid bunch comment.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

We are not understaffed per our business model. This is BH's standard staffing formula. Ask the SKW guys.

You guys are just seeing the tip of the iceberg, and getting a glimpse of how far BH is out of his league.
Thank Haysoos he is your problem now!
PBR

 

[79%N1]

I always get a kick out of these discussions. Sure, there are good guys at every airline, and some are way better than others. Also, don't even try to compare regionals with a major.
But, the type of people at regionals especially ASA is pretty bad. It's just a sign of the times, the last decade.
Most common quote from an ASA pilot: "we have the best pilot group out there", of course they can't compare it to any other group as they have never been any where else.
I flew with some quality people there, but as a whole, they were the most inept bunch I've ever seen and I know several Captains there that say the same thing.
Now let the kool-aid bunch comment.

Whatever! Gimme a freakin break!! For the most part the quality at ASA is bad??? Talk about Kool Aid?

Have a nice day. I'm not going to bother debating with you.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Stultification......

The act of making yourself feel superior by mocking your own origins. Projecting a self-accessed superiority by criticizing former contemporaries.

These boards are chocked FULL of your ilk. You are no better than us. The fact that you "escaped" ASA does not reflect any advanced skillset or intelligence.

Get over yourself.

 

[79%N1]

Right out of Idiot Lee's playbook. Funny thing is some of ASA's BIGGEST tools have gone guess where????

 

[say again]

Right out of Idiot Lee's playbook. Funny thing is some of ASA's BIGGEST tools have gone guess where????

Why stay? It's not worth the heart attack you'll give yourself.