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Sully to the rescue again!

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HA25

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It would be great if he also told the truth. Hoe about mention of how the Usair pilots in 1997, gave away the "regional" flying so they could get United plus 1%.
 
"When you go on a regional airline, you're not achieving the same level of safety that we have at the major airlines," Sullenberger said. "At the regionals, you don't have the same robust safety system in which we operate that you do with the large major airlines. So we still have not, in spite of our best efforts, achieved what we call 'one level of safety.' They're simply not the same."

I didn't watch the video, just read the article. What exactly did he say that is untrue? I fly for a bottom feeder and can attest to the FACT that safety really doesn't mean ********************. From the god-awful scheduling practices, shady maintenance and cockpits full of pissed off 300 hour wonders, there is NO question that safety is severely compromised at the ******************** bag regionals.
 
"When you go on a regional airline, you're not achieving the same level of safety that we have at the major airlines," Sullenberger said. "At the regionals, you don't have the same robust safety system in which we operate that you do with the large major airlines. So we still have not, in spite of our best efforts, achieved what we call 'one level of safety.' They're simply not the same."

I didn't watch the video, just read the article. What exactly did he say that is untrue? I fly for a bottom feeder and can attest to the FACT that safety really doesn't mean ********************. From the god-awful scheduling practices, shady maintenance and cockpits full of pissed off 300 hour wonders, there is NO question that safety is severely compromised at the ******************** bag regionals.

This pretty much sums it up nicely.
 
Sorry but don't agree w/ the 'great' Sully! At ASA We have a damn good safety record, and safety is stressed. We do have our problems once in while, like ALL airlines do, including the majors. Could some things be improved? Of course they can, and they're being addressed.
 
Sully wasn't talking about ASA/XJT. He was talking about regionals...not SUPER regionals.
 
Sorry but don't agree w/ the 'great' Sully! At ASA We have a damn good safety record, and safety is stressed. We do have our problems once in while, like ALL airlines do, including the majors. Could some things be improved? Of course they can, and they're being addressed.

My regional is awesome, therefore they are all fine.
 
The way I see it, Airline Pilots are tradespeople. Much like welders, carpenters, computer programmers, etc.- we seek the maximum amount of compensation we can for the skill provided. As a result, the airlines that pay the most get the choice applicants, or as I call it, the "cream of the crop". As wages decrease towards the lower regionals, the resume' pile shortens. Thusly, the airlines that pay the least end up with the leftovers, or as I term it, the "cream of the CRAP". That's where the similation between safety and pay comes in.
 
Sorry but don't agree w/ the 'great' Sully! At ASA We have a damn good safety record, and safety is stressed. We do have our problems once in while, like ALL airlines do, including the majors. Could some things be improved? Of course they can, and they're being addressed.

Not to come across too harsh, but just because your company hasn't killed anyone yet doesn't mean it's as safe as a mainline operation. My company hasn't killed anyone yet either. It's really just damn luck, and sooner or later the luck runs out. I don't care how many times Sully goes around tooting his horn. I can say with almost certainty that if this had happened to a regional crew, the last words on the CVR would've been something along the lines of "dude, we're gonna hit those buildings" as they stalled/spun it in.
 
Sorry but don't agree w/ the 'great' Sully! At ASA We have a damn good safety record, and safety is stressed. We do have our problems once in while, like ALL airlines do, including the majors. Could some things be improved? Of course they can, and they're being addressed.

As was mentioned though, you cannot say "it's safe" simply because there hasn't been a crash.

The duty days are, on average, longer and the experience level of new hires is less at ASA then the legacies and those are just two quick examples.
 
Sorry but don't agree w/ the 'great' Sully! At ASA We have a damn good safety record, and safety is stressed. We do have our problems once in while, like ALL airlines do, including the majors. Could some things be improved? Of course they can, and they're being addressed.

I was a captain at ASA back in the late 90's and unless a lot has changed since then, it wasn't all that hot to trot... 400 hour FO's that had no idea where they were 1/2 the time, and flying single pilot on an approach after a long duty day with 6-8 legs... I'll pass.
 

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