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jimpilot said:
In the trees! A life altering event!

When you are flying a single engine piston airplane and an engine sputters it is a life altering event at any altitude. If I was flying a cessna 150 on a short field and the engine sputtered at rotation, I would put it down now. Single engine airplanes dont climb well on no engines.
Remember the hands off the throttles is only for airplanes(multi-engines) that a decision to go is made. This is something you dont have the option on in a single engine airplane.
 
I might start cutting the power. Problem is, its a class D airport
Is there a sleepy little airport nearby? I trained in Podunkville and after a couple of throttle and/or mixture pulls at 50 feet or so, I got the hint. It was pretty fun upon reflection. BoBo never had to make an appearance;).
 
westwind said:
Is there a sleepy little airport nearby? I trained in Podunkville and after a couple of throttle and/or mixture pulls at 50 feet or so, I got the hint. It was pretty fun upon reflection. BoBo never had to make an appearance;).

ooooh...I like that idear...

Longish runway, hand comes off, mixture goes out, engine stops, student "punches a grumpy", student doesn't take hand off again...........interesting

-mini
 
I would tell them that the throttle would creep out if they didnt keep their hand on it....which was true in some planes if the friction lock wasnt completely tight. That seemed to work well enough. If not, loosen it or smack them. Option #2. :D
 
BoDEAN said:
Any tips on getting students to keep the hand on the throttle til we get to a safe altitude?

duct tape...
 
BoDEAN said:
Any tips on getting students to keep the hand on the throttle til we get to a safe altitude? I am finding a lot of my students give it full power, then both hands go on the yoke as we go down the runway at the towered field I fly at. I'm always telling them "Hand on throttle.
Have you tried using superglue? It always worked for me.
 
BoDEAN said:
Too funny. I might start cutting the power. Problem is, its a class D airport, so it can get busy. If I had my way, the mixture would be out every time!

Take them somewhere else for some TNGs. Then, when the hand comes off, chop it, and keep doing so until the bad habit is gone.

TA
 
What I always used (primarily w/male students) is tell them that the throttle is their girlfriend's leg. If you don't have your hand on it at all times someone else is going to put theres on it. Its just something to make them grin and rememeber it. Coupled with engine failures when their hand is off it will keep it in their mind. My 2 cents...
 
I used to pull the throttle back whenever they took their hand off it. I would take my students to a long strip (8000 ft or so) and have them take off, but I would control the throttle. About 50 feet or so, I would pull the power and simulate an engine failure. Most of them would start trying to troubleshoot and restart. I would just say, "Land the dang thing! There's still plenty of runway in front of you!" Of course, when before taxiing out I would let the guy at the FBO know what I was doing so he wouldn't freak out.
 
BoDEAN said:
Any tips on getting students to keep the hand on the throttle til we get to a safe altitude? I am finding a lot of my students give it full power, then both hands go on the yoke as we go down the runway at the towered field I fly at. I'm always telling them "Hand on throttle.
Two suggestions:
1, pull the throttle back to idle when they take their hands off the throttle

2,Punch them in the throat
 
Everytime they remove their hand from the throttle tell them you are going to pull a CB or cover an instrument or GPS, etc. AND they have to buy you a Coke.
Or, if it's a busy airport and you don't want to jam things up by aborting on the runway, continue the take-off and just tell the tower that you would like to enter the pattern for a full stop. After a few of those your student will get the idea.
 
I had a student who let go of the throttle because she needed both arms to pull the yoke back. I suggested that she use a little more nose-up trim during TO and that solved the problem!

-Night_Flight-
 

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