Strange new routes for America West?

[TOGA]

I just read in the latest Air, Inc update (and we all know they're never wrong) that Cactus will be starting flights from PHX to PGA (Page, AZ; aka Podunk in the desert) and from JFK to BRU (which I believe is Brussels). What the . . . ?! Code share/feeder flights mistakenly listed under AmWest's heading by the Air, Inc geniuses? Any other ideas or insight?

 

[Swerpipe]

WOW

I have flown to PGA a lot on a Metro Part 135 over the last 5 years. I have seen airline after airline go under (on B1900 s!). I would be very surprised to see RJs or 737s there... Are you sure? That's surprising....Runway is somewhat limiting and it has a nice slope to it. Perhaps one of my favorite destinations in the whole country.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I bet it'll be something like Mesa doing the flying...

 

[GuppyPuppy]

I bet it'll be something like Mesa doing the flying...

Oh crap! Mesa will be flying to Brussels???

Funny now, maybe not so funny in 20 years.

GP

 

[islandhopper]

I bet it'll be something like Mesa doing the flying...

It is, there should be a designator on the code somewhere referring to the beech. PGA is a short field.

Someone said they started it like a month ago or a bit longer.

I dont know about BRU, it doesnt show up on the airnav sdite, must be intl. Could be a codeshare HP sells tickets on.

 

[Cardinal]

I'll be darned, HP6826, operated with a Mesa Beech, starting 5/15/04. They'll actually stop in Prescott between PHX and PGA. PGA-PHX has been operated by Great Lakes for years under the United codeshare. If another carrier wants to try it, more power to 'em. The airplanes are empty, except for the five days per year when they're ridiculously oversold.

This is hilarious, two 19 seat operators slugging it out with empty wingtip flights departing within 45 minutes of each other to the same god-forsaken, desert rat city. Somewhere there's an oil shiek thanking Allah for his good fortune, cause he's the only person on the planet who'll benefit from this.

 

[beechdriver]

PGA is actually an EAS route, subsidized by the gov't., as are many of the 1900 routes that Mesa flies. We routinely fly these routes with very few or no passengers, and the company still makes money on them (Yep, your tax dollars hard at work). Mesa has been pushing very hard to win both new and existing EAS contracts, and was apparently successful in getting the PGA contract from Great Lakes. Once we start flying there, I'm sure that GL will pull out.

 

[amcnd]

Flew allot there for Scenic but that was all charter river runs. But Scenic had a operation out there for awhile with C-206's and also Delta express PGA-PHX on a 1900 but it was always broke so we flew it in a DC-6. I think the people did'nt loke seeing the twin otter pull up. But did like the audio tour to PHX. Sunrise air also was based in PGA but that did'nt last long.

 

[enigma]

. Sunrise air also was based in PGA but that did'nt last long.

Sunrise lasted just long enough to teach me that J31's have no place flying operating out of anyplace elevated higher than sea level. Have I said lately that the stream was a POS? I shouldl have known that Sunrise wouldn't make it when I heard that they were going to operate the sled. I did meet a few cool pilots there though.
There was the pimpdaddy, ellie mae, and a middle aged gift shop lady with the nicest get along in five states.

enigma

 

[Guppiedriver]

This is hilarious, two 19 seat operators slugging it out with empty wingtip flights departing within 45 minutes of each other to the same god-forsaken, desert rat city.

Obviously you've never been to Page.

 

[steveg]

Well yes, Page is a s---hole.

However, Lake Powell is the most incredible lake I've ever been to. Anyone that's been is awed. I bought a boat I couldn't afford, and am staying at a job that I don't want to be at, just so I can spend another summer there. If you've been you know what I mean. If not, you are missing out. Being able to camp out on a beach, with no one around for miles, and view the most incredible scenery around is well worth a trip on a 1900 from PHX. I feel sorry for the people that will never experience it.

Anyonw here go to Powell? Maybe we can have a flightinfo weekend on the lake?

 

[swaforme]

My son was concieved on a 24 hr overnight in PGA. 1995 Skywest.

 

[Cardinal]

Obviously you've never been to Page.

Of course I've been to Page. The lake is gorgeous, the dam impressive, and the rocks and views amazing. But let's face it, the town was built for the sole purpose of raising and maintaining that dam and powerplant. It's a little lonely in the winter.

 

[ditchdiva]

Sunrise lasted just long enough to teach me that J31's have no place flying operating out of anyplace elevated higher than sea level. Have I said lately that the stream was a POS? I shouldl have known that Sunrise wouldn't make it when I heard that they were going to operate the sled. I did meet a few cool pilots there though.
There was the pimpdaddy, ellie mae, and a middle aged gift shop lady with the nicest get along in five states.

enigma

I forgot about the gift shop lady...mmmm!

Yea, Page is a little hole of a town, but it can't be beat for the boating, fishing, and scenery! It is what you make of it, and we sure seemed to have fun there. Having your pax buy you a post-flight round at the Dam Bar was pretty cool, too. Pilots?......yea, we're *cough* boat pilots!



Ellie Mae

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

My son was concieved on a 24 hr overnight in PGA. 1995 Skywest.

Pretty bad if you can narrow it down to a specific 24-hour period!

 

[Guppiedriver]

Of course I've been to Page. The lake is gorgeous, the dam impressive, and the rocks and views amazing. But let's face it, the town was built for the sole purpose of raising and maintaining that dam and powerplant. It's a little lonely in the winter.

Who would go to Page for any other reason than Lake Powell?

If the eco-freaks are allowed to drain the lake, Page will be godforsaken.

 

[Cardinal]

You're kidding me, the Environazis actually want to drain the lake?

 

[Cardinal]

Well I'll be darned: http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200311/canyon.asp
They do want to drain Lake Powell.
And the defense: http://www.lakepowell.org/index.html

 

[skippy767]

Lakes has been awarded the EAS in PAge 3 months ago. MESA is going there without any EAS. They are trying find flying for an aditional 20 1900Ds moving from the east coast that have no flying to do.