Stop extending Nja brothers

[CA1900]

Everyone is too burned-out.

That's the truth. I'm maximizing my PTO days for sanity, that's for sure.

 

[Wankel7]

You Sir, would end up in prison! Please be advised that such threats, even those made under a pseudonym name on a message board are not taken lightly.

Nobody owes you anything!

If you feel like that post was offensive to you....fair enough.

Its your comment of ....nobody owes you anything....that concerns me. Why did you make that comment?

If I had the displeasure of flying with somebody who mentioned they extended or enjoyed the 18 day schedule with people on the street it would be a quite trip followed by me placing them on the I never want to fly / see / think about that person again list.

 

[Hawkered]

Again, an implied threat!

I will never tolerate such behavior; you'd be finding your way home on Greyhound!

 

[PoorGuy]

Again, an implied threat!

I will never tolerate such behavior; you'd be finding your way home on Greyhound!

Are you for real? A guy like you probably needs the FO to keep from violating regs or bending metal. I'll bet you're a real hoot to fly with....get over yourself.

 

[VGerect]

I will never tolerate such behavior; you'd be finding your way home on Greyhound!

Ok skipper, let us all know how that works out for you.

 

[Hawkered]

If you've been out of work for four years and not been able to find anything with the number of employers screaming for pilots, I'd say it wasn't me with the problem.Good grief! We've already had one first officer fired in the last week!

Do your job, work hard and stop believing that your here to save captains from themselves and that we obviously could not possibly know what we're doing. What do you think this place is, Asiana?? This is an ideology that's got way too carried away!

Show up with a good attitude, fit in and try not to make trouble, you might actually have a company to work at until you retire! If not, your return will be short lived.

 

[BORG]

If you've been out of work for four years and not been able to find anything with the number of employers screaming for pilots, I'd say it wasn't me with the problem.Good grief!

Care to elaborate? I'd like to hear your take on the job market of the past four years from the cozy confines of your bubble.

I think you underestimate the quality of the pilots that were eventually furloughed. When I interviewed DM told us there were over 10,000 applications on file. Of my interview group of 12, only three were hired.

Does that sound like your interview experience Captain Hawkered? Do you think you would have slipped through the cracks?

 

[PoorGuy]

Care to elaborate? I'd like to hear your take on the job market of the past four years from the cozy confines of your bubble.

I think you underestimate the quality of the pilots that were eventually furloughed. When I interviewed DM told us there were over 10,000 applications on file. Of my interview group of 12, only three were hired.

Does that sound like your interview experience Captain Hawkered? Do you think you would have slipped through the cracks?

Maybe we should ask him why didn't ever get to a major airline. I reckon I know the answer.....

 

[Rubber Ducky]

I'm pretty sure Hawkered signed up at industry low pay AND signed a hefty training contract. Best he could find and he is the pot calling the kettle black by comparing these past 4 years, which many of us either didn't accept such conditions or did so reluctantly to put food on the table.

This sounds like a threat...

I will never tolerate such behavior; you'd be finding your way home on Greyhound!

 

[BORG]

If you've been out of work for four years and not been able to find anything with the number of employers screaming for pilots, I'd say it wasn't me with the problem.

I don't know why this statement irritates me so much because I was one of the lucky ones that found gainful employment post-furlough. I guess it's because you've demonstrated that you really have no idea how bad it was in 2010.

As one of the furloughed guys - it's easy for me to see how someone could be out of aviation after 4 years. It goes something like this:

You get furloughed in the middle of the worst economic conditions in 70 years. There are VERY few aviation jobs out there - I had been flying Boeings prior to NetJets and couldn't even get a look from regionals. Getting a job in a bizjet was even tougher.

Virtually EVERY full-time job required you to be typed AND current. If you weren't, you started with two-strikes. All too often NetJets on my resume was strike 3. I know of at least twice that my resume was round-filed just because of NetJets.

I thought for sure getting hired at NJA under such competitive conditions would make me stand out - unfortunately it did, but in a bad way.

I was fortunate enough to find a full-time job outside of aviation that was flexible enough to allow me to do contract work in some Citations and a Falcon 900. At the end of 2010 I managed to turn a contract gig into an SIC rating on a XL, which somehow turned into a full-time PIC position flying for a great family.

Without the contract flying I could have easily gone past the one year mark without flying and found myself in no-man's land like so many of our brothers and sisters.

After a year, besides not being current in a specific type, you're not current in anything. Do you have any idea how many positions REQUIRE 200hrs in the preceding 12 mos. I'm guessing - based on your demonstrated cluelessness - that you don't, so I'll tell you. It's most jobs.

That's right - most jobs require a couple hundred hours in the preceding year. If you haven't been flying for over a year, you're now virtually unemployable.

And that's how you end up out of aviation - despite all of these phantom companies "screaming for pilots". I'm still interested in hearing about them when you get a chance...

If you could include in your response which fleet you're on I would appreciate that as well. That way I can avoid it at all costs - lest we end up stuck together someday.