Stop blaming the Delta TA

[Twisted Mind]

Bubba,

Exactly! Then they make it a requirement to work at said sold out position to get to the "good job".

 

[titans10]

I'm a little confused here--maybe I don't understand exactly what you're accusing each other of, but what's the issue? I can see someone arguing that a legacy might be "selling out" by agreeing to outsourcing for something in return. I'm not giving anyone crap for this, but I can see the rationale behind the argument. They're "selling" some of their flying for raises or other benefit. Got it.

But how is the pilot who takes a regional job a sellout? It wasn't his idea; he didn't have any part in the creation of his position. He just took a job that was freely offered out. How does a legacy pilot "sell" or agree to outsource some of his flying in return for a raise upfront, and then have the nerve to bitch at the guy who took the job that his deal created? He didn't create this situation; you did. If you don't want a regional pilot flying "your" passengers, then don't give away or sell that flying. Don't blame him for buying what you freely sold.

I dunno; maybe I'm looking at this wrong.

Bubba

Nope. Idid not create this. Never got a chance to until this past contract. Voted a big h...l No.

 

[titans10]

titans,

That is it? One five year furlough. If that is your idea of bad luck. I would like some of your bad luck.

You can have it. Good luck.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Nope. Idid not create this. Never got a chance to until this past contract. Voted a big h...l No.

Well, I wasn't referring to you (or anyone else specifically) as an individual, but obviously certain pilot groups have collectively. You know, democracy and all...

Bubba

 

[Twisted Mind]

Titans,

How many regional pilots do you think would trade places with you? I think they all suffer far more than you ever have. Yet they show up with a smile on their faces.

 

[Sedona16]

That is incorrect. You must not be familiar with the home construction industry. Wages for skilled labor rise and fall with aggregate demand. And I'm sure that if I sat down and thought about this for a while, there would be many other occupations that have seen wages rise commensurate with labor supply shortfalls.

Mortgage brokers

 

[ultrarunner]

Titans,

How many regional pilots do you think would trade places with you? I think they all suffer far more than you ever have. Yet they show up with a smile on their faces.

If a sub-contractor shows up at my hut to do work, I'd expect the smile! Not my issue he chose to work for the sub and not the GC....

 

[xjhawk]

You have a lack of insight. DO you really think most of us as the regional level choose to work here? Most of us are products of circumstances. We work here because this is where we were told was the first stepping stone to get to the majors. Maybe you big shot big plane flyers should question your companies on why they hire less qualified pilots with limited time and experience because they fit an HR need or some notion that some formula by some statistic company says lower time pilots are more trainable.

 

[doh]

If a sub-contractor shows up at my hut to do work, I'd expect the smile! Not my issue he chose to work for the sub and not the GC....

You can expect anything you want. You'll actually get what you pay for. In the case of airlines like Delta, the multiple subcontractors make the product extremely inconsistent.