stay here @ SKYW or move to ASA

[Russ]

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Well said but I fear lost on the General. Its one thing to share the pain when your making a hundred thou plus its quite another when its peanuts. I think its the symbolic act he is looking for, if so then it should be some very nominal amount. The little guys should not be punished because mother D can't run an airline.

 

[General Lee]

79%N1,

I know where you are at, because back in the mid 90's I made less than $1000 a month also flying a Brasilia (at a different company though). I was there too, so relax a bit. I would believe that you guys should give something, but the percentage is up to you. When I said 20% for everyone, I primarily meant at mainline. Why? Everyone is used to making their current wages, and a 20% hit would hit everyone the same. I know some of the jobs make squat, but everyone has a stake in this. If you don't think so, just wait and see what may happen IF we actually do go to Chap 11. We will get the new United Contract, and you and Comair will get Mesa's. Then you will be making around $15 or $16 bucks an hour..... I am not a negotiator and will not make recommendations, but I was throwing it out there---saying that everyone has an equal stake in protecting their jobs. I don't see management running to give some pay either. (Except the CFO giving 8%) I still think that when this is all over, we will be giving 15% plus an additional 4.5% (the May raise) which will be close to 20%. I have no clue what you guys will be doing or giving. But, I really don't see a raise in your future.....Sometimes the truth hurts, and hopefully we will all get through this with minimal loss. Good luck.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Otto Coarsen]

To once again point out the never ending inaccuracies of mesa bashers, first year FO pay in the 50-59 seat jet @ mesa is 20.47 an hour.... So though I know that wasn't your point in the argument, I must point out that Mesa's payrate (be it horrendous) is actually about buck and a half higher then the ASA pay quoted for first year FO, and NOT 15-16 bucks an hour as you pointed out...


But thanks again for spreadin the crap on the $hit sandwich

 

[ductleak]

thanks again

Guys --

Thanks again for your input here. It has made stomaching this decision easier. Staying put here at Skywest makes more sense for me right now. Pay, upgrade and heck, 5 years down the road looks a lot better for me then it would for me at ASA. It is easy to get caught up in tommorow instead of looking down the road for the future.

SWA is and has been my goal for the longest period of time. I have not been sitting on the fence at all. I have been a loyal SWA career pursuer for years now.

Thank you all again. ASA called my again today for an interview but, I made the decision to just sit tight here and wait for a possible upgrade here that could actually occur sooner than later.


Again, thanks for your input...

 

[Skull-One]

People make it sound like 91/135 turbine jobs are easy to find. I have discovered they really aren't. Am I missing something?

 

[wil]

Otto- that 1st year rate for ASA is from our contract dated 9/15/98. So, enjoy your sandwich-

General- If you want the furloughs to fly then let's kill the portfolio and get the DCI flying under the ASA/CMR umbrella. There will be enough flying to keep us all busy until the furloughs can move back to mainline. Then maybe a "Golden Ticket" for those of us who want to move up when hiring resumes?

 

[General Lee]

wil,

That would be nice, but I can't see Delta allowing too much of that. They want to get costs in line and then they will expand you and Comair. They will probably keep the others around in some shape or form so that you will not strike and cause them too much grief. I bet you will get a BOS base soon, it looks like. Here is what our VP of Marketing said in this latest expansion news--looks like a huge carrot to me:

"To support the expansion, Delta will bring 10 airplanes out of storage and offer 200 furloughed flight attendants there jobs back, said executive vice president and chief marketing officer Vicki Escarra. About 100 more airport gate and ticket agents also will be brought back from furlough or brought in from other airports, she said.

The airline is still evaluating how many of its 1,000 furloughed pilots to bring back, Escarra said. Delta is in the midst of a protracted battle to get deep wage concessions from its pilots.

Escarra also said Delta, along with other major carriers, is considering purchasing assets from US Airways -- which emerged from bankruptcy last year -- but that no decision has been made
yet.."


Hmmmm. We shall see.....

Thanks for thinking about our furloughs, though.( and, we will be talking with the interviewers prior to any hiring about who helped our furloughs out)

Bye Bye--General Lee