State of fractionals including NJA

[wolfpackpilot]

Sorry this is not a popularity contest.

Fozzy,

And its not a one way street either. There is a long and clear history within the NMB on establishing the rights of a non-organized group into an organized one.

Clearly, 300+ pilots operating on a separate ticket dealing with separate CP's and managers, separate training departments, etc. etc. will have their own local council within the larger NJASAP to deal with the issues pertaining to NJI operations.

And trust me, within this 300.... we OWN the majority. Our elected boys (or gals) will be arriving in CMH with smiles on their faces. I hope you have lots of $ in the kitty for union meals.... we like to eat a lot of steak & lobster on this side.

 

[Gruman Fan]

That said, I am rather hoping most of the NJI pilots are more like you, GSD...

Wife,

You guys are completely wrong about Wolf. He's just poking all of you the in side because he can. If anyone at NJI knows unions, its that guy.

He is right about one thing, NJI pilots will need local leadership for dealing with local issues. We wont operate within the CMH system and structure, therefore we will need a "mini" union within the union to handle our affairs locally.

I don't rant and rave like most people on here, but I wont be very happy paying union dues having someone represent me that doesn't know my operation. Wolf is right, the NJASAP will have to establish some type of local council. When I did the 121 world, that is exactly what we had.

I suggest the union make available the chatboards for our pilots so that these issues can be discussed out of the public eye.

Best Regards,

Gruman Fan

And Wolf... leave 'em alone already.

 

[netjetwife]

GF, I am confident that fair solutions can be found. Needless to say, respectful behavior will help smooth out the bumps along the way. Regarding the message board: I don't think they can let non-members post without a change in the rules, first. I remember when the spouses were given access to the board. It wasn't always open to us. That said, I won't be surprised if the leadership works something out as the time gets closer. Everyone knows that communication is important--along with a good attitude. NJW

 

[brokeflyer]

hey wolf...i see the hiring process at NJI has a lotta holes in it too.....sshhhh...or you may get noticed.

 

[brokeflyer]

I hope you have lots of $ in the kitty for union meals.... we like to eat a lot of steak & lobster on this side.

thats the kinda attitude that gave us our current crew meal menu....thanks alot jerk...

 

[Fozzy]

Fozzy,

And its not a one way street either. There is a long and clear history within the NMB on establishing the rights of a non-organized group into an organized one.

Clearly, 300+ pilots operating on a separate ticket dealing with separate CP's and managers, separate training departments, etc. etc. will have their own local council within the larger NJASAP to deal with the issues pertaining to NJI operations.

And trust me, within this 300.... we OWN the majority. Our elected boys (or gals) will be arriving in CMH with smiles on their faces. I hope you have lots of $ in the kitty for union meals.... we like to eat a lot of steak & lobster on this side.

Whatever. Pound that chest all you want. There will be NO steak & lobster. Trust me, if you only knew how that would play out. Maybe some free chow at the company meet and greet.
Your "own local council" huh. Please hold your breath on that one.

Gota ask, why all the flame bait? Did someone piss you off? How well do you think you will make out for your 300 if you go out of your way pissing off the 3000 for no apparent reason? Give me a good reason, and hell, you might find some on the A side would support you.

Anyways, welcome to NJASAP.

 

[brokeflyer]

if your that upset then just quit and go somewhere else.....no one is twisting your arm to stay here.

 

[jonjuan]

if your that upset then just quit and go somewhere else.....no one is twisting your arm to stay here.

And start at the bottom of someone else's seniority list?

Not on your life. Lol......

 

[brokeflyer]

And start at the bottom of someone else's seniority list?

Not on your life. Lol......

true...but then you shouldn't be complaining and making a total oick weed outta yourself about it.

 

[cush]

Cush....


Go find a tall building and end it.

God I hope and pray we get to share to a cockpit together.

Care to share your name?

Dude! Your embarrassing yourself! At least your proving my point! Tall building....? Not likely, life couldn't be better, thanks though for the tip.

If we ever fly together...I will have a name. For you and only you...I will be addressed as "Captain". I'm light years senior and we got to keep it professional you know.

(And, if your wondering I take my coffee black, no sweeteners.)

Bu bye now.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

If we ever fly together...I will have a name. For you and only you...I will be addressed as "Captain". I'm light years senior and we got to keep it professional you know.

Nice try s*bag.... I'll be your Gulfstream Captain as well.... And uh, that's with 3 years at Netjets... what plane do you fly again?

See ya when you get here, junior dude. And yes, we will keep it professional, because you'll do what he FOM tells you too.

As for the coffee comment, we have Flight Attendants that get our coffee... Numnutts.

 

[o2bflyn]

(And, if your wondering I take my coffee black, no sweeteners.)

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careful....he might replace the sweetner with something else......I would.

 

[brokeflyer]

And uh, that's with 3 years at Netjets...

3 WHOLE years?


lol get educated...please. It would help you out a lot.

Llike is said, if you have that much hatred then just quit. It's not healthy to hate that much, they have threapy for that.

 

[cush]

careful....he might replace the sweetner with something else......I would.

Good point. That's why I'm always nice to the flight attendants! Wouldn't want want any of this...
uke:. Or worse.

 

[cush]

3 WHOLE years?


lol get educated...please. It would help you out a lot.

Llike is said, if you have that much hatred then just quit. It's not healthy to hate that much, they have threapy for that.

No kidding. I think a struck a bit of a nerve. This is fun! Seriously man. You'd love flying with me. Not sure I would feel the same though.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Um, guys? Just so you know, at NJI when two Captains are flying together, the PIC on the paperwork is based on the date of pilot upgrade to Captain in the Gulfstream fleet. Not date of hire. When I was still in the IV, I flew with one of the NJA Captains who is about 4 years senior to me on DOH but I was the PIC. There are a few other scenarios where the "senior" pilot acts as SIC when paired with a "junior" date of hire pilot.

HOWEVER ALERT! HOWEVER ALERT!

As the integration moves forward, that could change. The FOM has not been revised on this point although I expect it will be at some point in the future.

Okay, resume pi$$ing contest.

 

[o2bflyn]

Good point. That's why I'm always nice to the flight attendants! Wouldn't want want any of this...
uke:. Or worse.

lol...good move.

 

[gunfyter]

Okay, resume pi$$ing contest.

Why does there have to be a contest?

I don't care what seat I sit in. I only care what it says on my pay check.

I am too happy working for this great Company to be brought down by this stuff.

 

[cush]

The only thing being brought down is our collective IQ's with people like wolfpack. Pi$$ing contest over. He's now on my ignore list.

 

[ozpilot]

I don't care what seat I sit in. I only care what it says on my pay check.

Agreed. A lot of times I fly with junior captains. If my partner has not been PIC for awhile I'll offer him or her the slot for the week. And I don't just mean "you fly from the left seat and I'll fly from the right". I mean calling the company and having the names switched on the paperwork. If your going to be PIC you will be PIC.