Launchpad
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I need some clarification from some of you die hard stand up/high-speed/CDO guys out there. It's been a while since I did these, and I need some FAR clarification before I reach for the Lube.... Seems like I'm getting the hose job.
I understand that there is no real duty limitation, just the 24 hour lookback for rest. My argument is that the 16 hour limit is a hard time on a stand up, but I'm getting the "Legal to start-Legal to finish argument" See below post, I also need some clarification on this. I was obviously legal to start, or the pairing would not have been in the bid packet... The last let in the AM or 2 legs for that matter would have put me over the 16, is that BS or legal?
Basically the stand up started on 2030 local and scheduled to duty off the following day at 1100am or 14.5 hours later which is fine. For this example, I do one leg at night and 5 legs in the morning (fun, huh?) or 2.5 round trips in the morning. Today I was way late, and after the 3rd leg which put me at my destination (base) within the 16 hours I told them that the next round would turn me into a pumpkin. I got the legal to start/legal to finish argument. By that rationale, why even have FAR's?
My question is the legal to start/legal to finish argument for the whole trip or for each leg? I was legal to finish, but then the fog came in.... I think the last round should have been eliminated for me to be legal. The long and short of it is that I went over the 16, which in turn screwed up the whole 24 hour lookback
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the input-
(g) A flight crewmember is not considered to be scheduled for flight time
in excess of flight time limitations if the flights to which he is assigned
are scheduled and normally terminate within the limitations, but due to
circumstances beyond the control of the certificate holder (such as adverse
weather conditions), are not at the time of departure expected to reach their
destination within the scheduled time.
I understand that there is no real duty limitation, just the 24 hour lookback for rest. My argument is that the 16 hour limit is a hard time on a stand up, but I'm getting the "Legal to start-Legal to finish argument" See below post, I also need some clarification on this. I was obviously legal to start, or the pairing would not have been in the bid packet... The last let in the AM or 2 legs for that matter would have put me over the 16, is that BS or legal?
Basically the stand up started on 2030 local and scheduled to duty off the following day at 1100am or 14.5 hours later which is fine. For this example, I do one leg at night and 5 legs in the morning (fun, huh?) or 2.5 round trips in the morning. Today I was way late, and after the 3rd leg which put me at my destination (base) within the 16 hours I told them that the next round would turn me into a pumpkin. I got the legal to start/legal to finish argument. By that rationale, why even have FAR's?
My question is the legal to start/legal to finish argument for the whole trip or for each leg? I was legal to finish, but then the fog came in.... I think the last round should have been eliminated for me to be legal. The long and short of it is that I went over the 16, which in turn screwed up the whole 24 hour lookback
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the input-
(g) A flight crewmember is not considered to be scheduled for flight time
in excess of flight time limitations if the flights to which he is assigned
are scheduled and normally terminate within the limitations, but due to
circumstances beyond the control of the certificate holder (such as adverse
weather conditions), are not at the time of departure expected to reach their
destination within the scheduled time.