Stalls in a cloud?

[gkrangers]

Even for an instrument student, the prinicple task can be accomplished by doing the maneuver VMC under the hood... Personally, there are unacceptable risks involved with doing anything other than normal maneuvering while IMC.

I agree. Tho it was never an issue for me...Florida.

 

[midlifeflyer]

What about for an instrument student? Acceptable?

There are maneuvers on the edge of aircraft performance that you obviously should be able to do in IMC if necessary - stall recovery, steep turns, unusual attitude recovery. But I'm not sure whether or not practicing them in actual as opposed to under the hood provides an increased benefit that is outweighed by the increased risk.

I don't see any value to doing them with a new student pilot other than a CFI wanting to get some jollies.

 

[Thedude]

The bigger question is ...If this guy was IMC was he on an IFR flight plan....??
I have several close calls with jokers like this back when I was flying at the commuters in a turboprop...so I have no love for them

 

[minitour]

If you take an iced up airplane to the stall horn in IMC, popping the boots every few seconds, you are a complete idiot. That is absolutely unsafe. Typical 135 mentality.

I would agree with the majority of what I quoted there.

I just wanted to chirp in to clarify my earlier post...I don't believe doing anything in icing conditions can be done safe. Even in a certified aircraft.

What I think can be done safe is stalls (to the buffett) and steep turns in IMC...not the icing part popping the boots, etc.

-mini

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

The bigger question is ...If this guy was IMC was he on an IFR flight plan....??
I have several close calls with jokers like this back when I was flying at the commuters in a turboprop...so I have no love for them

I gotta agree with the dude here....had some moron cruising along imc without talking to anyone in a 172 that crossed in front of us on an ILS in to west palm years back....if it had not been for tcas you would have read about a 737 with 120 peeps on board crashing off the florida coast because some idiot in a 172 figured he couldn't be bothered with filing IFR!

If the CFI was doing this without an IFR clearance please go beat the crap out of him before he kills someone!!:angryfire

 

[tracearabians]

Did they file an IFR flight plan ?

Hi,
My friend recently told me that him and his CFI went into a cloud, and did actual steep turns and stalls. They did all kinds of manuevers like that inside the cloud. It raised some alarm bells in my mind. Is this type of thing generally done, or is it a little risky? Just wondering, im not really sure.

 

[kc135ang]

When I was a MEI I would file IFR and do the stalls to the warning horn as well as steep turns. I usually asked for 2000' block of altitude. Now with that being said, it was the stupidest think that I have done flying by far. I do not recommend it and it just adds another element of risk for no reason!

 

[Workin'Stiff]

Yup...

 

[MauleSkinner]

Are we talking fully developed stalls or are we talking to the horn or to the buffett?

The needle, ball, and airspeed comment was actually in reference to the spin recovery.

Fly safe!

David

 

[minitour]

The needle, ball, and airspeed comment was actually in reference to the spin recovery.

Fly safe!

David

Oops...yah...not really sure why I hit quote there LOL...

I agree with your statement, however...maybe that was in my mind as I hit "quote"...

-mini