stablized ?

[hotwing]

Guys - -too lazy to go looking in the AIM/FAR(S) --

Can anyone point me in the right direction for regs on stablized approaches as it pertains to vis. and non precision approaches? I know what my FOM at the airline stated when I used to fly 121, but I am corporate now and we are re-writing our company FOM now...

Our 121 FOM had no more than 1000 FPM desent rate with landing configuration no lower than 1000' AGL. Ref 5 marker inbound or FAF...

Can anyone point me in the direction of an advisory circular or FAR or AIM page that will help me with this reference material?

Thanks in advance...

 

[HawkerF/O]

I think what you have there is pretty much what most use and you'll need to add
1) Engines Spooled

Also, depending on your company's procedure/airplane, it could be REf +10 as a norm and that could change as well depending on WX.
REF + XX + 1/2 gust factor
OR
REF +/- 0 if Ceiling and or VIS at Mins (my own preference)

Then you also have adjustments per the AFM for some failures (flaps)

 

[hotwing]

I jsut need reference materials -- ya know the drill -- where did I get this -- not this is how we did at the airlines...

 

[satpak77]

there is an FAA Advisor Circular on it....I think AC-120 series

too tired to look it up, just got back from Outback and I am fat and tired

 

[G4G5]

Stabilized Approaches can be found in:
FAA Order 8400.10, Air Transportation, Operations Inspector's Handbook, volume 4, chapter 2, section 3, paragraph 511.

http://support.part135.us/8400-10/Volume%204.pdf
Look at 4-158

• 500 feet above the airport elevation during VFR
or visual approaches and during straight-in
instrument approaches in VFR weather conditions
• MDA or 500 feet above airport elevation, whichever
is lower, if a circling maneuver is to be conducted
after completing an instrument approach
• 1,000 feet above the airport or TDZ elevation during
any straight-in instrument approach in instrument
flight conditions
• 1,000 feet above the airport during contact
approaches​

NOTE: Principal inspectors shall not approve an
operator’s procedure unless the stabilized
approach concept is used for all turbojet aircraft
operations. It is recommended for all propeller-
driven aircraft and rotorcraft in IFR weather
conditions.​

​

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http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/examiners_inspectors/8400/fsat/media/fsat9510.txt

The "stabilized approach concept" of 8400.10, par. 511, will
be considered essential for safe operations for "all" aircraft in
air carrier operations. Moreover, 1,000 feet per minute will
normally be considered the maximum allowable for a stabilized
approach inside the final approach fix. Descent rates in excess
of 1,000 feet per minute will be cause for consideration to
abandon the approach.

 

[hotwing]

Thanks man - exactly what I was needing!


How was the west coast?

 

[G4G5]

The NHRA Drag Races at Pamona were awesome!!!!!

I tried to get your boy to go but he was busy.

 

[Ty Webb]

You can also add +/- 1/2 dot on the localizer and +/- 1 dot on the G/S to your criteria.

Basically, on G/S, on speed, configured, with engines spooled up . . . not much to it, the problem is the occaional cowboy who won't or can't.