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Flying Illini

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I saw this phenomenon for the first time last night after crossing the line of storms that went through Iowa and Missouri and into Illinois. I have never witnessed this before and was absolutely awstruck by it. It was one of those things that I just couldn't look away from.
Does anyone know of any websites that describe this in detail and maybe contain pictures?
 
Flying Illini said:
I saw this phenomenon for the first time last night . . .


Does anyone know of any websites that describe this in detail and maybe contain pictures?
What would we ever do without Google?!?!?

Here are a few sites that describe:

St. Elmo's Fire Definition Meaning Information Explanation

Saint Elmo's fire on Encyclopedia.com

ST ELMOS'S FIRE

Definition of St. Elmo's Fire (wordiQ.com)

St. Elmo's Fire

St. Elmo's Fire and Ball of Lightning

What is St. Elmo's Fire? - Ask Yahoo!



Pictures are a little harder to come by. That darn MOVIE keeps coming up!

The Turn Of The Century Electrotherapy Museum


I flew with a guy in the Air Force that . . . well, kinda freaked out the first time he saw St. Elmo's fire. He was forever know, affectionately, of course, as "Elmo."


How's Northwest treatin' ya these days, Elmo?!?! :) :D
 
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It's wicked, isn't it??? I was flying a 206 the first (and only) time it happened to me. I had sparks from the glareshield to the compass to the windscreen. Another pilot I fly with had it also on the same trip.... except a little worse. Complete rings around the prop, and archs from the prop tip to the wingtip. I would have crapped my pants probably.
 
I like to roast marshmellows over a nice St. Elmo's fire...don't get too close, you might burn yourself

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night flight out of farmington NM in a bonanza through rain showers, the prop disk got so bright it felt like there was someone behind us with headlights lighting up the prop, I almost looked behind us til I figured out what it was. Oooohhh!
 
The CRJ can get some pretty wicked St Elmo's going when you cross ice clouds (like T'Storm tops) at night.

If you touch the windshield, it's like those plasma balls they sell at Spencer's. It glows and makes sparks toward your hand!
 
It glows and makes sparks toward your hand!

And it must have varying degrees of voltage, because I got shocked pretty good by it once.
 
coolyokeluke said:
It glows and makes sparks toward your hand!

And it must have varying degrees of voltage, because I got shocked pretty good by it once.
Yeah, I have too, I was playing around with a handheld GPS one nite, I had the antenna stuck to the inside of the windscreen and I got a little tingle, not bad, just enough to notice.
 
Thanks for all the sites. The only pic I had found was on airliners.net. It didn't even occur to me to touch the windscreen...maybe next time! :)
 
Flying Illini said:
Thanks for all the sites. The only pic I had found was on airliners.net. It didn't even occur to me to touch the windscreen...maybe next time! :)
If its a plastic windscreen, I'd think twice about reaching out to it. Long story short, I pointed to some St Elmo's Fire once in a Navajo with a plastic right window and had a five inch bolt of lightning arc from my finger to the windshield. I couldn't use my whole arm for ten minutes and the loud crack could be heard in the cabin by the passengers.

Lesson learned: make the other guy point at it.
 
Actually had a lightning strike on the Cheyenne today.

Was flying thru the ice crystals being blown off of the anvil top of a storm. was getting lots of static electricity, and I am sure if it had been night, I would have have some visible st elmos

I see a flash and hear a bit of a crack, and figured I possibly got hit. It was confirmed by seeing a cloud seeding flare on each wing had ignited.

Turns out the other Cheyenne that was up seeding at the same time in a different area of India, was also struck by lighting. And it also ignited some of the cloud seeding flares on the wing racks
 
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I remember the first time I ever saw it. I was in a 310, flying through the soup in dry snow. I spent the next three days picking upholstery out of my butt crack. It occured to me that no one had ever told me that this stuff happens. I thought for a second I was caught in a tractor beam......friggin' aliens.
 
I've observed St. Elmo's on many occassions, and in many forms. It's cool when it's dancing on the outside of the windscreen, and awesome when it dances in a little ball down the center of the cockpit on the floor. But the coolest form I've seen happened during a night A/R in the midwest.


We were scheduled for a typical Air Refueling leg where we'd A) onload enough JP-4 to continue our scheduled mission and B) get plenty of practice contacts. It was dark, and clear, but we were paralleled on both sides by lines of thunderstorms. While we were well clear of them, we could see the occassional flash of light in our peripheral vision. The plan was to go to full tanks on the first contact, back out, let the "CO" get the first practice contact, swap practice contacts after that, and top off as we reached the end of the track. I got the initial offload, backed out, gave it to the CO, and he stabilized and started easing forward. About the time the KC-135's boom was pointed directly at our long nose, a thin blue streak of light connected the tip of the boom to our airplane. As we eased forward, the size of the light increased, so when it was pointed at the metal beam between the two front windows, a "tube" of light resembling a Star Wars light sabre connected our jets. It looked like a blue glowing plasma, alomst straight, but bending and wobbling a bit. It was smooth, not jagged, and by this time about 8 inches in diameter and perhaps 12-15 feet long. While it looked pretty harmless, it occurred to me that it was headed towards our wide open air refueling receptacle. I told the "CO" to go ahead and back on out, reached up and rested my hand on his on the throttles to verify the throttles were easing back, and told the boom we'd be backing out. The boom operator was practically speechless, and I guess I can understand why. When I let him know that I figured we already had enough gas for the night and we'd just be goin' on our way, he was stuttering but obviously relieved. "I was just gonna say 'Breakaway' when you said that, sir, but I could barely breathe."

I doubt it would have resulted in any harm, but I don't regret playing it safe. This way I KNOW I can tell you about the cool St. Elmo's I saw that night.
 
I've also seen it in many shapes, forms, and degress of intensity. But I think this one time was probably the freakiest:

We had just taken off in a LJ-25 and were topping a line about 25 miles from the airport around FL190. Then we got a call from ATC telling us that company wanted us to return to the airport for another box. After several four-letter words (hoping not to have a stuck mic), we did a 180 and heading back down through it. The storms weren't more than strong level 2's, but man did we get the St. Elmo's fire! It covered the windshield, was arcing forward off the tip tanks and then following the airflow back, and we temporarily lost the radios. Those of you that have flown Lears know that your face is pretty darn close to the windshield.:eek: I kept waiting for it to arc into my eyeball or something, because I had never seen cover the entire windshield in a Lear before. But the most spectacular part was the arc off of the nose. There was a big bolt of it shooting off the nose to about 8 feet in front of the plane into a "dish" of static electricity. It looked almost exactly like on Back to Future, when the car hit 88 mph and all of that electricity was shooting in front of it. It definitely got our attention, and added to the many stories of flying freight at night.
 
I saw the same thing one night in a Falcon 20. We were descending through some weather and all of a sudden it almost looked like we had our landing lights on piercing the clouds and completely surrounding the nose.
 
How is it possible for it to "roll down the isle" like a ball of fire? I figured it would have to be limited to outside the aircraft?
These are some pretty cool stories, thanks for sharing!
 

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