Speeding tiket?

[Alaskaairlines]

Hello guys!

How do speeding tickets affect flying for the airlines? Just today I got one for 6 points, just wasn't paying attention and really regret it.
That will bring the count up to 9 points if I don't get rid of 6. I am talking to a lawyer who I understand is good in court. He's taken care of 3 tickets for my friend, all went to zero.
And yes, I am watching my driving from now on.

What do you guys have to say regarding that? I think it takes 3 years to clear my record, but not sure?

Thanks!

 

[justApilot]

I have had atleast a point on my licensce for the past 18 years. Didn't seem to hurt me any.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Yeah, I not to worried about it. I think it's a good idea to keep it as clean as possible. I'm going to try to get rid of it through a lawyer, its going to cost me about $200.

I'm just worried about 9 points on the record, thats only 2 tickets.

Anyways thanks for the reply!

 

[FR8mastr]

Don't sweat it points go away usually in 3 years and if the time you have listed is correct at least half of that will be gone by the time you are in the hunt for a job anyway. PS by a radar detector LOL.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Thanks man!

 

[CounterGirl]

It'll be the least of your concerns. Just try not to rack up enough that could possibly show a pattern of "lack of respect" for rules and regulations. You'll have to explain a failed checkride before a speeding ticket in an interview. Have fun with insurance premiums, though.

As a side note...I know a guy that got pulled over going 97 in a 65 mph zone while wearing his captain's uniform....I didn't even his POS car could go that fast

 

[PositiveRate]

That last one should have been from me. I forgot she was still signed on.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

LOL!!
That would be funny, full uniform, about to rotate and then you remember your in your car with a cop on your tail!

I think I can fight this one off with a really good lawyer! I'll let you guys know how it goes.
The cop said I was doing 76 in a 55MPH zone, but I have to say it was less.........anyways.........

 

[WrightAvia]

If not paying attention is getting you speeding tickets, getting a radar detector won't help you out. In fact, I find radar detectors make you more aggressive with the speeding.

I'd learn to stay more alert as opposed to pluging in a black box. In your case I could see false alarms and percieved false alarms, as being annoying and bothersome, then you would just ingnore them and wind up getting nailed anyway.

I'm not kidding. Learn the lay of the land...IE: The posted speed limts of the roads you drive frequently. Drive using the cruise set to 5-7 over the limit, or the flow of traffic. In fact if your car has cruise...I suggest using it all the time you can, when it is safe to do so.

Also...buy a red two door sports or muscle car, that usually helps with getting tickets. And talk more on the cell phone...it may not be against the law while driving, but your inattentiveness means that you will find yourself "accidently" speeding and getting pulled over, thus leaving me to blow on by doing that laugh the one kid on "simpsons" always does.

Not trying to be mean, but learn to be more alert. I don't recommend the radar detector for you.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Actually it isn't really a paying attention issue.
In Alaska we don't have to many cops on bikes, I actually can spot a cop car from a long ways away and so far haven't been pulled over.
The cop was parked in teh median about 6am and it was dark and raining, so I didn't see him early enough to slow down, and its quite a challenge to stay awake that early!

Anyways thanks for the tips, I'm driving my bimmer slower. Trying to break those speeding habits.

 

[godsgift2aviatn]

Here's a thought, ...Drive slower... I have at least 2 tickets on my record that date back to 1997. The funny thing is I got the second one on my way to court to contest the first one. I always get a laugh from that one in an interview. The fact of the matter is, unless you drive like grandma (which I now do). The law of averages will see to it that you are awarded an infraction at your worst possible convienience. Don't sweat it though unless you have reached habitul offender status. And once again.....Drive slower.

 

[jarhead]

Actually, Alaska, your last post belies something obvious to me. That is, you are not that interested in driving within the limits set by law and regulation. Your focus seems to be on spotting cops, so that you can intentionally speed. It says to me, you break the speed laws on purpose, because you are confident you can get away with it. In order for your fortunes to change, you need to change that outlook and attitude..............right?

 

[WrightAvia]

Thats one of my rules about speeding

Actually several of my rules.

One. It was dark and rainy. You couldn't see the officer. You're a sitting duck then.

Two. You were the only vehicle at that time? You're a sitting duck then.

Three. It's hard to get a break from a cop when you are going 21 over when it's dark and raining. And you're driving a BMW. And you're young.

Reduce your exposure to tickets by using that cruise control, knowing the speeds and speed change areas on the road you frequent. Never go more than 9 over unless you got some people ahead of you and or you can see where a cop would be sitting. RAIN...it's a no brainer...slow down. You know you can get a citation for SPEEDING when you're actually doing the speed limit when the conditions are not favorable for driving. FOG, RAIN OR SNOW can get you cited when driving the speed limit. It's called too fast for conditions. If I haven't bored you too much yet...

I try to never go more that 7-9 over when I'm the only car on the road or when I can't see where a cop would sit. I also use this method when I'm out beating the snot out of my CBX 1100 6 cylinder honda...and I have not been pulled over on it ever. Close but no cigar. I'll go knock on wood right now though...But I have put over 16,000 miles on that bike since '89. Not a lot of driving it...but a lot of speeding on it. And a lot of speeding above and beyond the limit of the federal mandated 85 mile an hour speedometer.

21 over gets you up there in points and some other things. In Virginia, if you are more than 19 over, the policeman must issue a reckless driving ticket with the speeding citiation.

I skated on that reckless driving ticket twice in one weekend in Virginia. On a friday night after bar closing, I was on my cycle chasing after a friend of mine on the way to breakfast. He got the jump on me out of the parking lot and maybe made a few stop lights that were green...whatever. I was on Route 60 in front of the little creek naval amphibase and I went past a virigina beach cop and he just turned on his car headlights. I pulled over on to shoulder immediately. We had the normal chat in his car about the radar and my speed and he then asked if I had been drinking, which I was. He then made a comment about how I must be a good cycle driver, cause he never had to pull onto the road to pull up behind me and I never even locked my brakes up on the gravel shoulder or skidded. He told me I was doing 21 over and he wrote me for 19, to save me the reckess ticket. He never said another word about the drinking.

The NEXT day, saturday...on Route 60 again. I was racing an obnoxious punk, driving some lame excuse for a muscle car. I was on the bike again. I beat the guy twice and he came back for some more, so I burned him real good the third time. As I slowed down, I saw the front end of a virgina beach police car in a cut out in the woods to right of the highway. He started forward, so I just pulled over. He had to pull up maybe 50 feet and never had to enter the highway with his lights on. He actually wrote me for better than 20 over also. I got to court and the judge (who had seen me in naval uniform not more than a few weeks before for that first ticket, was now looking at me in a suit...I didn't want the judge to recognize me) Well anyway...the judge sees that the cop didn't write me the reckless ticket (I was written for better than 20 over) so the judge reads the back of the ticket and decides to drop my citation to 19 over, in court. What was written on the back of the ticket, I'll never know, but I'm sure it had to do with attitude and how quickly I pulled over.

I actually got a 10 over ticket in the city of norfolk the next day...yea sunday and it's three tickets in a row. Friday, saturday, sunday. Did drivers improvement clinic and got my license straightened out. Adult education...you gotta pay to play.

 

[jarhead]

Alaska

Your question asked about how speeding tickets might affect your be able to fly for the airlines.

I am going to give you a personal opinion here. If I were a pax on a 121 carrier, and the cpatain was a habitual speeder and flaunted, by intent, the rules and regulations of driving, I don't think I'd want to be on that captain's aircraft. Those attitudes surely would carry over into ignoring FARs that you also felt were dumb, or that you could get away with violating. You absolutely MUST change your attitude and behavior in this area.

A personal anecdote. My own son had always had a goal of flying for a 121 carrier. In high school, he never once had even a warning ticket for anything. This was not "luck" he drove like a ticket would mean an end to his career aspirations. All his buddies were getting tags, and in wrecks all the time, with suspended driving licenses.

When he was in college, he took a job as a bartender in a Chi-Chi's Mexican restaurant . He chose to walk from his dorm to work, and walk home, he was that focused on avoiding even the apearance of DUI. He today, is 31 years old, and still has never had one traffic ticket of any kind. He got a parking ticket once when a meter expired in front of a college library. $20 bucks for the parking ticket.

The point is, my son was focused on being an airline captain. He upgraded from FO to CA at Comair at the age of 28. I don't want to say this all happed because of his driving record, but I can say, that a poor driving record did not derail his plan. That's where you may be headed if your focus is to "speed" and avoid getting caught. It won't happen.

What's your hurry, anyway. Start your trip 10 minutes earlier, and just drive the posted speed. It's so EASY A "no brainer" as they say.

 

[OneTuffGuy]

The regional I work for hired me and not only did I have two speeding tickets that i got on the same day, but as a result my license was suspended for a while. I was honest with them, they seemed to appreciate the honest and overlooked it. No it is not MESA that I work for either.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Thanks guys!

Actually I try to hold a good attitude towards driving safely, towards the police also.

I've been driving 5 over since that ticket, and plan to keep it that way.

Thanks for the advice guys, I guess being a pilot starts from driving safely and following rules, then to the FARS!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

you dont have to have a better attitude towards cops..

You said 6am, nobody on the road huh??

good thing the prik wrote you a ticket....he saved some lives that morning, huh?

Aggressive drivers, a$$holes on cell phones, wanna be gangster rappers in lowered Hondas....yeah, they need to be ticketed..

you didn't.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Actually there was 5 cars or so in the pack, he told me that one of them to my right was doing 64, and I was doing 76.

Anyways this is a learning experience.....kinda hurts though.

 

[Dieterly]

Don't worry about it, I got on a major with 6 speeding tickets, and that was even before the hiring boom.

There are actually airlines out there that are more interested in how you are in the cockpit instead of in a car at 6am on a deserted road, and then ofcourse we have Comair... "No sir, I don't know how to fly, but I sure can mix a killer margarita...."

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Thanks!

I hope to keep the count down though.