Speeding Ticket

[ifly4food]

Try that sh!t with a Chicago cop and you'll soon find an ounce of blow and a .38 in your back seat, not to mention the forthcoming beating.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking, but not just in the city. The cops in the Burbs are 10X worse about that. You'll find yourself in the Cook or McHenry Co. pokey real quick.

 

[ifly4food]

Nobody bothered to answer my earlier challange either, if you recall I asked if anyone could name one town, city, county, government in the world were blacks moved in and property values didn't plumet and violent crime increased. The reason is you won't find one. You know what country has the highest crime rate? South Africa, this happened as soon as a black leader was elected president after apartheid (sp?).

Look at Haiti, Africa both richer than any place else in natural resources and yet they have the highest crime rate and poorest population in the world. People aren't prejudice, they are just realists. I also think that 1 out of 3 male blacks that are in prison, parole or under house arrest is low, I beleive it's 1 out of 2.

Just the facts, ma 'am!

I employ several blacks and hispanics in my offices, and many of my close freinds are blacks, those that truely are trying to make something of their lives without taking the easy way out, (selling drugs, robbery, ect), I sympathise with. It must suck to be a minority and look at your fellow kind and see what they are doing to themselves, kinda lika like the idiots ruing it for everybody by breaking restricted airspace. It's sad but sometimes people after repetative exposure to negative events associated with a particular group, culture or race will begin to generalize, it's up to those individuals of these groups to change things or things will never change.

The above is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There's just as much crime and violence among poor white trash as there is in the ghetto. Shame on you for posting such an ignorant and racist statement. Blacks and Hispanics don't breed crime... poverty and lack of education do.

 

[FN FAL]

1st time getting pulled over was because I was in the middle of nowhere wyoming and my dad was telling me to go faster and sure enough a cop comes around the corner and gets me for 11 over. 66 bucks. That pissed me off... BUT i still payed and just got on with it, im glad they are there though, thats for sure. except when they pull me over, but big kudos and thanks to the cops out there.

Hahaha...yesterday my co-worker told me he got nailed for a 165.00 speeding ticket while driving his chevy blazer. The state boy had instant on radar and my buddy was too busy talking to his passenger to be paying attention to his driving.

I told him there's more to using those things than just plugging em in and waiting for the bleep, but they never listen. He also has deep sixed the notion that he's invisible to radar when he's driving his motorcyle. For some reason, he got it in his head that police radar can't clock motorcycles because of their profile. Duhhhhh!

 

[Vote4Pedro]

And no, you are not allowed 10mph over the speed LIMIT, that is why it's called a limit. It's like when ATC tells you to "maintain" a certain altitude, you don't get +/- 1000 foot do you?

No, you're right...

It's +/- 300 feet

Sorry, too easy.

 

[FN FAL]

No, you're right...

It's +/- 300 feet

Sorry, too easy.

Not only was it easy, but he's wrong. The cops do allow 9/10 over, they just had that story on national news about a week ago. And I'd go and look up the california anti-speed trap law again, but after a while you get tired of convincing dorks they are wrong.

Here's some good news...Virginia is giving up photo speed enforcement cameras because they caused accidents. Hahahahaha...the government just wants the money, they don't want you to drive safer...you'd be putting all those government featherbedding democrats out of work if you did.

NO MORE CAMERAS

The state of Virginia has given up its 10-year experiment with using cameras to catch red-light runners. Even though most of the people in the northern part of the state liked the cameras — these are the high-traffic areas in the Washington, D.C., suburbs — the rural folk never accepted the idea. They considered the cameras and their resulting tickets in the mail to red-light runners to be a violation of privacy.

When studies found out that the number of rear-end crashes increased where cameras were used, the project died, even though the studies also showed a decrease in red-light-running "angle" accidents.

Editorializing on the demise of the cameras, The Partnership for Safe Driving (crashprevention.org), said, "... we are reminded once again that trying to enforce traffic laws without ongoing education is a hopeless endeavor, particularly when using technology that is even slightly controversial. We are also reminded that no single problem on the roads today can be solved in isolation."

Monday Motoring Minute will have more on this interesting Web site in the coming weeks.

 

[AA717driver]

When I get nabbed for speeding, I just tell them I don't know the speed limit but I feel I'm driving at a "reasonable and prudent speed for the conditions". I'm going to get a ticket anyway so why beat around the bush.

My policy on searches is if they ask, deny permission. If they really want to search my car, they can state their probable cause and call for backup. Oh yeah, I'll state that I hope the tape is running and doesn't get erased.

FN FAL--good posts as usual.TC

 

[Metro752]

Illinois Nazi's, based in the hometown of Mike Alstott, Plainfield, go on a field trip to the North side every year to make fools out of themselves.

The ones that don't go stand on the side of Route 30 and get sh1t throw at them all day long in Joliet by the mall.

It's a great feeling when you douse a big fat bearded Illinois nazi wearing a swastika armband with a crappy 99 cent milk shake from Burger King.

Be nice if Dickhead Daley ordered an army of CPD to arrest em all. Even if it was Illegal, I don't think anyone would care.

 

[FN FAL]

Probable cause is such a loose term. If your acting jumpy then they have cause. You might be upset from getting a ticket but the cop doesn't care he is going to do what he wants.

That's fine. All you have to do is say "I do not grant permission" and then shut up. After that, they can do whatever they want, but they better be prepared for a career altering ride.

Like I said before, if you gave a friend a ride in your car or borrowed someone your car and you don't search it afterwards for contraband, you're the one that's going to be eating the criminal charge.

Sure they can do whatever they want to do after I refuse to give consent...in fact, I pray they do whatever they want to do. However, I am not going to agree to a "covenant not to sue", just because they make it seem like that's the thing I sould do.

Articulable Suspicion - Apparently Twelve Isn't Enough
Payne v. State, A00A0021;2000 WL 868484 (June 30, 2000)
Attorneys, you've got to read the portions of this opinion citing conversation appearing on the video/audio tape made at the stop. Defendant was stopped for following too close. After viewing the video, the Court of Appeals determined that the arresting officer's "twelve articulable suspicions" were a crock. Even Judge Eldridge agreed. Held: Defendant was detained without legal basis and the detention was an unlawful arrest thus rendering the coerced "consensual" search unlawful.

Here's another dumbass that consented...

Articulable Suspicion - Check Your equipment
Navicky v. State, A00A1506; 2000 WL 1006531 (July 21, 2000)
A broken license plate light is sufficient grounds for a traffic stop. Defendant's consent to search allowed the officer to find contraband.

 

[troy]

Ok, all of the states need to change the signs, ASAP. New signs will read "Speed Advisory, 65" or "Speed at Drivers Discression" or "Speed About 65".

 

[Vavso]

How about this ...

they ask to do a consent search... you say no than they summon the drug dog to your location and it hits on the ounce of weed in the glove box game over
I think that as part of getting a license you should give the right to a consent search of your car as you do when it comes to taking a breathalyzer .
FYI :in new york marijuana in the car is presumed to be the owners and in small quantities only a violation however other contaaband drugs and a firearm are presumed to be held by all the occupants bottom line - you need to know who your passengers are !!
What do you have to hide anyway ??? vavso

 

[TDTURBO]

The above is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. There's just as much crime and violence among poor white trash as there is in the ghetto. Shame on you for posting such an ignorant and racist statement. Blacks and Hispanics don't breed crime... poverty and lack of education do.

Ridiculous you say? Then prove me wrong. Why do you think people are poor? This I can't wait to hear, especially from a bleeding heart liberal. Be forwarned, I have facts to back me up and you won't find any.

Poverty and wealth do add to crime but contrasting an anthropologically demographically equal minority sample, you will find that a group of poor whites with poor education compared with poor blacks that are uneducated will enlighten you that they are not even close. The black sample will have double the incarceration rate and parole rate as the whites. Care to bet?

You better chew on these facts first.

White/Black I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Blacks do better but so do the Whites. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, associate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes.(18)

References...........


(18)McGurk, Frank, "A Scientist's Report on Race Differences." U.S. News and World Report, Sept. 21, 1956. Washington, D.C.

(26)Shuey, Audrey H., The Testing of Black Intelligence, Social Science Press, New York, 1966


This is just a small taste and it is beneath me to reveal further unpleasent but true facts contrasting your misguilded understanding of their plight.

I wish no harm or malice but simply wish to set the record straight with published facts in recognized studies and journals, if you wish to pursue this, I will post these facts with credible references that may offend some. Be it as you wish, just let me know.


I offer only a challenge that has yet to be met except by you and all you had to support your argument was an excuse, typical of a generation X individual. I implore you to show me I am wrong, please do, I hope you can.

 

[FN FAL]

they ask to do a consent search... you say no than they summon the drug dog to your location and it hits on the ounce of weed in the glove box game over
I think that as part of getting a license you should give the right to a consent search of your car as you do when it comes to taking a breathalyzer .
FYI :in new york marijuana in the car is presumed to be the owners and in small quantities only a violation however other contaaband drugs and a firearm are presumed to be held by all the occupants bottom line - you need to know who your passengers are !!
What do you have to hide anyway ??? vavso

Yes, I agree with you Vavso. If you have nothing to hide...you should submit to 45 minutes of having your car searched for drugs. After all, the people are here to serve the whims of government and the US Constitution is not worth of anything more than vavso having something to wipe his pooper with.

 

[Vavso]

A consent search takes .....

about 5-10 minutes its wheeling and dealing to get the consent that takes time. I guess you believe in "black helicopters" too Vavso

 

[flyboy06]

Have you ever driven on I-95? If you go the speed limit you'll be dead before you know it.

Or I-4 in Florida, if your not doing at least 80-85mph your dead.

I was in a small NH town with FLA plates. I got stopped a few times, no tickets, just checking me out then a verbal warning for "speeding"

In the end, its what you drive. A sh*t box civic with a wing will get stopped more often than my silver '00 Camry.

 

[satpak77]

dude

They can search your car without permission.

don't comment unless you know what the he11 you are talking about

the above statement is 100% incorrect

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_n8_v65/ai_18701410

 

[satpak77]

about 5-10 minutes its wheeling and dealing to get the consent that takes time. I guess you believe in "black helicopters" too Vavso

Whether the SEARCH is OBTAINED via Consent or Warrant, the SEARCH should take time and be thorough. HOW it is obtained should not dictate the length of the search.

If I spent 15 minutes getting conset, I am not gonna spend only 5 minutes searching

 

[nptguy]

I paided the fine ,it's over!

 

[FN FAL]

Whether the SEARCH is OBTAINED via Consent or Warrant, the SEARCH should take time and be thorough. HOW it is obtained should not dictate the length of the search.

If I spent 15 minutes getting conset, I am not gonna spend only 5 minutes searching

That's fine...like the guy said, his search took 45 minutes.

I don't really have a problem with what you do after I don't give consent...because I didn't waive my rights. Which ultimately means that I still have recourse on Monday morning after all is said and done. If a person gives consent, they can never contest the legality of the search.

I can honestly say that I have given consent to search my car twice. In one case I was 16 and didn't know any better and the Richmond cop was harasing me. I think this Richard Head thought he was going to find something and was big time disapointed after the search. He was digging in my ashtray like bear in trout stream, the jerk. His reason for stopping me was pretty unreal as well. Once again, bored cop, 11:30 pm at night, dumb kid in car. I drove away from that traffic stop, confused and pissed off...but no traffic citation was issued.

The second time I had my car searched by consent, was when I was leaving the factory on my last night of working there before heading to flight school. I had an old brick of fireworks in the car and I was stripping off rows of firecrackers, lighting them and tossing them out the window on the way to my going away party. I was literally driving the car with my knee and launching salvo after salvo....bam, bam, blammity blam. It was a hoot.

So I get pulled over in the parking lot of the tavern of the going away party and I put the car in park, shut the ignition off, put the keys on the dash and put my hands out the window. When the cop walks up and shines the light in my eyes, I go..."Hey, I'm sorry I did such a stupid thing, but it's my last night at the salt mine and I'm letting loose before going out of town to school!"

He gets a little more relaxed and looks in my car from the outside and I hand him the remaining brick of firecrackers. He says, "if you check out, you'll walk...let me see your driver's lic."

He goes back to the car and radios it in, then comes up and asks if he can search the car. I got nothing to hide so he does the interior search, then yacks on the radio for a second, then asks to see in the trunk. I let him look and all that's in there is 500 rounds of .357 ammo that had come loose from the boxes, carpeting the trunk floor with a sea of nickle. He didn't say a word and shut the trunk. He then says, "have a seat in the car."

While I'm sitting there, the SGT pulls up and he knows me pretty well...I tipped quite a few drinks with the guy at parties and the bars and knew him on daily basis in a previous life. He pulls up window to window with me and says, "When I your name on the radio, I thought we were going to see an UZI tonight!" I had to laugh...I'll never forget that.

The SGT goes up and talks to the patrolman and next thing you know, I'm in the bar enjoying my going away party...minus the brick of firecrakers, no citation.

What has changed since then? Well, I'm not a dumb kid anymore and I don't drive around doing stupid stuff like throwing firecrackers out of my car. Also, there are times when I keep US Treasury Department tax paperwork in my trunk along with items that paperwork authorizes me to possess. If the Treasury department or agencies under them wants to see my stuff, they are more than welcome to come on over and bring the doughnuts, I'll put the coffee on and we'll have a look see...because it's all good. In fact, they know what's going on, they signed the paperwork.

On the other hand, if some uneducated flat foot thinks he's going to look back there in my trunk and have his way with my Tax returns and items that cost more than 1.5 his annual salary without a subpoena, he's going to have get there without my permission, cause I ain't waiving nothing.

 

[turbodriver]

This sucks! I just finshed college I'm leaving Ole miss for good in less than 9 hours and I get a speeding tix. Jerk would not let me off for speeding down some back road that I had never even been on knowing that I was leaving for good the next morn . Took them 45 min to search my car for drugs. well venting helped a little. Back to sunny Long Island tommorrow am

you're boned.

 

[JWilliams]

hehe, I got nabbed for going 82 driving home from Seattle on a prominent highway in Oregon last week.

Anyone who lives there or has been through the state can tell you about how fast I was going over, lets just say it was 15 < .



The cop actually let me off with a warning because, by his own admittance, they drive "a helluva lot slower here than they do in Idaho" it probably didn't hurt that I had a record that was cleaner than crystal.

He said he really just wanted compliance out of me and you better believe my needle got near 65 from that point forward.

I was lucky though because a ticket that size is the LAST thing I need to have.

If by some wierd chance you read this, a big THANK YOU Sgt. Dalton, I owe you one.