Speculation on why NJA didn't make an NBAA announcement

[snoopy14]

Latest rumor says NJA aircraft announcement is a few months away. Go back to sleep for a while.

 

[imacdog]

Wake me up when we're talking about "Recall announcement".

 

[Hogprint]

Latest rumor says NJA aircraft announcement is a few months away. Go back to sleep for a while.

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That is the latest. They aren't ready yet. May be delayed a few months.

 

[BentOver]

+1

That is the latest. They aren't ready yet. May be delayed a few months.

Unfortunatley, just like expected recall dates, I think business just isn't working out as well as they would like..

Beyond the initial excitement of some positive recall estimates. The truth still remains that they simply pushed recall back more than a year from expected in January 2010.

 

[rajflyboy]

Unfortunatley, just like expected recall dates, I think business just isn't working out as well as they would like..

Beyond the initial excitement of some positive recall estimates. The truth still remains that they simply pushed recall back more than a year from expected in January 2010.

August 09 changed everything.

 

[Pervis]

Unfortunatley, just like expected recall dates, I think business just isn't working out as well as they would like..

Beyond the initial excitement of some positive recall estimates. The truth still remains that they simply pushed recall back more than a year from expected in January 2010.

Everything I've heard about growth and recalls remains on the same schedule as origionally planned. We have stabilized and are profitable operationally for the first time-ever.

There were never any updated recall estimates. The year 2013 has always been the year forecast when we will actually see new aircraft arriving and start recalling pilots, not including the few Globals we'll get next year. It doesn't help those on the street right now-that sucks.

I have a feeling the growth we all seek will make a dramatic turn around starting in early November next year.

 

[imacdog]

There were never any updated recall estimates. The year 2013 has always been the year forecast when we will actually see new aircraft arriving and start recalling pilots, not including the few Globals we'll get next year. It doesn't help those on the street right now-that sucks.

Um, no, initial recall estimates were for mid-2012.

 

[Jack Campbell]

Everything I've heard about growth and recalls remains on the same schedule as origionally planned. We have stabilized and are profitable operationally for the first time-ever.

I've heard all plans were pushed BACK 1 year under Sokol. And I hear NJ is still shrinking - so says the union.

There were never any updated recall estimates. The year 2013 has always been the year forecast when we will actually see new aircraft arriving and start recalling pilots, not including the few Globals we'll get next year. It doesn't help those on the street right now-that sucks.

I have a feeling the growth we all seek will make a dramatic turn around starting in early November next year.

What are you basing this on, the election?

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[BentOver]

Everything I've heard about growth and recalls remains on the same schedule as origionally planned. We have stabilized and are profitable operationally for the first time-ever.

There were never any updated recall estimates. The year 2013 has always been the year forecast when we will actually see new aircraft arriving and start recalling pilots, not including the few Globals we'll get next year. It doesn't help those on the street right now-that sucks.

I have a feeling the growth we all seek will make a dramatic turn around starting in early November next year.

Unfortunately your assessment couldn't be farther from the reality.

The schedule concerning recalls has absolutely NOT remained the same..

1) Per our CERTIFIED LETTER.. the first recalls should have started around mid-2012... That is not and will not be the case. Based on our (and union) assessments. If the "new" schedule is accurate, the first recalls may start mid 2013. IF THEIR PLAN WORKS 100% perfect.

2) The most junior furloughee had an estimate of around mid-2014 for recall. Now the estimate is around 2016... Certainly NOT even close the the original plan. Again via our CERTIFIED LETTER.

3) 2013 has not, and never been, the original recall begin date. Nor has it ever been relayed to us as the start date for recalls. Only those furloughees hired during a certain timeframe had a expected recall date in the year 2013. VIA CERTIFIED LETTER to the furloughees.

4) The new and improved recall dates have not been advertised. Only a generalization of when they may be complete. No actual dates have been relayed (not even years). And those are based on a ton of furloughees NOT returning, and an increased attrition from active pilots (prob. SIC's heading to greener pastures).

4) I hope next year (2012) is a turning point. Thus far NJA is still losing customers at a rate higher than it's gaining them. This has been the case all along. Sokol didn't stop the bleeding. It has continued. The only thing that has stopped the bleeding down to a trickle is the stabilizing economy..if you can call it stabilized vs. 2008-2009.


Other than that, looking forward to the Globals, Phenoms, and a mid-cabin announcement... Just don't go extending and all will be good...

 

[GooseHZ]

Mabye its just that there was nothing to say?