Specialist nurse paid higher than family doctors

[DX Jake]

Northeast Philly MIGHT of had something to do with it. Just kiddin'. Dad lives about 1 mile off the approach end of 15 at PNE.

 

[instructordude]

I've thought about becoming an anthesologist too but it would require getting the prereqs ( Biology, physics, differential equations etc..) for medical school and then going to medical school. I'm with my bro Lear70 on this one.

 

[rightrudder]

Actually, compare a Family Doctor to a Family Nurse Practictioner - FNP does not make as much as a Doctor in that area.

Compare CRNA to an Anesthesiologist - that is the proper comparison.

 

[Lear70]

There is some truth to this, and I agree with lots of Lear's post. A critical difference though- CRNA and NP (Nurse Practicioner) programs are already Master's programs, and most are moving to a Doctorate/PhD requirement. So if you want to make good money administering anesthesia, you will have two choices: go to med school, intern, residency, etc. Or- go to for an RN BS, then Master's, then Doctorate. Neither route is easy or short, and all are well trained.

Not in TN.

All that our school requires (Middle Tennessee School of Anesthesia) is a basic RN undergrad degree and certification. They "prefer" 2 years of nursing experience on top of that, but have made exceptions in the past.

No Masters or Doctorate in addition to that although, arguably, they might be working on getting the whole program certified as a Master's program, it certainly qualifies...

Truth be told, the schooling a CRNA gets and the experience required could be compared VERY closely to a flying degree and ratings through ATP.

CRNA:
4 Years College
2 Years CRNA training.
Both with hands-on training while in school.

ATP (if you go the college route):
4 Years College
2 Years CFI/Cargo work to get to the ATP level of flight time and certification (about what it took me after college).
Both with hands-on training getting your ratings while in school.

Difference? Pilot makes $35-40k after that training. CRNA makes $120k+.

No wonder new-pilot entrants at colleges are down.

 

[navigatro]

Arguably, the route to becoming an Anesthesiologist is the LONGEST medical school route of ANY specialty. 2 years longer than becoming a Cardiologist, Cardio/Thoracic surgeon, even a brain surgeon. It's also the most lucrative BASE salary position, with most Anesthesiologists making between $400k and 750k a year, depending on where they live. Only plastic surgeons in MIA/Beverly Hills tend to make more.

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I will argue these points with you!

Anesthesiologist = 4 years undergrad + 4 years med school (MD or DO) + 4 years residency = 12 years. You can add another year or 2 for fellowship (e.g. pain, pediatric anesthesia, etc, but these are not required)

Specialty Surgeon = 4 years undergrad + 4 years med school (MD or DO) + 5 years general surgery residency + 2-3 years specialty surgery training e.g. neuro (even longer) or Cardio/Thoracic or plastics = 15-16+ years

Also, Starting pay is more like $250-300K, with 1-2 years to partner, where the money is then $350-400K for general anesthesiologists, and even more for fellowship trained ones. It is possible to make $500K plus, especially in underserved areas or pain management. On the other end, I know anesthesiologists that are on staff at teaching hospitals (large universities) that make around $220K.

 

[onewithwings]

Nurses are the backbone of the medical industry. Now sit back and watch the Chocolate Jesus screw them along with the rest of hard working Americans.

The term "chocolate jesus" is for the Non-aviation forum....keep it out of here! Consider this a warning.

 

[Whataburger]

...but you have to be a nurse.

 

[Lear70]

My ego isn't so big that I have to have the term "Doctor". I'd be happy being a F/O for the rest of my career if I made $200k+ a year doing it and was home 16+ days a month.

I have a family. I'm here for the money and the days off. Yes, I want to enjoy my job, but I've been a Captain more than half my career. I know I can do it, don't need the ego boost, and just want a worthwhile career from a money standpoint.

Those CRNA's aren't exactly upset about their income (although they do work some seriously long hours, just like we do).

 

[Lear70]

The term "chocolate jesus" is for the Non-aviation forum....keep it out of here! Consider this a warning.

You're nicer than I am. I don't think it belongs on the forums at all...