Space Shuttle pilots and logging time

[sonofaeagle]

Ok I'm sitting here at work thinking of useless questions.

How do the shuttle pilots log time? Do they only log time for certain portions of the flight? Anyone know?

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

Anyone know?

Anyone care?

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

at that stage you don't really log time anymore, more like bask in it

 

[User546]

Anyone care?

Hey now, that's a fair question.

I'm kind of curious myself - although I do agree that it probably doesn't matter.

I do know the astronauts spend a couple hundred hours flying the T-38, and a modified Gulfstream II aircraft which is used to simulate landing the shuttle. There's lots of time to be logged, so I think its a fair question. However that applys to training, and I have no idea about the actual flight. Probably a mute point if you think about it.

I found this below on a site:
"Since the orbiter lands on a runway much like a high-performance aircraft, pilot astronauts use conventional and modified aircraft to simulate actual landings. In addition to the T-38 trainers, the four-engine KC-135 provides experience in handling large, heavy aircraft. Pilot astronauts also use a modified Grumman Gulfstream II, known as the Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA), which is configured to simulate the handling characteristics of the orbiter. It is used extensively for landing practice, particularly at the Ames-Dryden Flight Research Facility (DFRF) in California and at KSC's Shuttle Landing Facility. "

 

[User546]

at that stage you don't really log time anymore, more like bask in it

Astronaut canidates are only required to have a 1,000 hours of jet time to apply, with test piloting time optional, but preferred.

So just because your an astronaut, doesn't exactly mean you have 50 gazillion hours!

 

[Angus]

Ok I'm sitting here at work thinking of useless questions.

How do the shuttle pilots log time? Do they only log time for certain portions of the flight? Anyone know?

I'm shocked you're even employed with a intelligent question like that one..

Let me guess... you work behind the glass at the Shell Station?

 

[wingnutt]

shocked...at being at work with nothing to do? youve never been at work with some idle time on your hands?

dam man, try some valium, hell take two...they're small

 

[Goose Egg]

I'm shocked you're even employed with a intelligent question like that one... Let me guess... you work behind the glass at the Shell Station?

Classy.

-Goose

 

[Ralgha]

I'm shocked you're even employed with a intelligent question like that one..

Let me guess... you work behind the glass at the Shell Station?

Since that was such a stupid question, surely you must know the answer?

 

[rvsm410]

Shuttle Fight time logging

To answer the question, Yes this is logged time from T-Zero to Wheel Stop...The commander logs this as PIC and Pilot Logs As SIC and the Mission Specialists log it as time "On Station".

This applys 24 hours a day when on orbit sleeping or not, Mission control monitors the vehicle while the crew sleeps, however the pilot and commander have headsets on while they sleep if something is required by the ground observers.

How do I know? well you probably would not believe me anyway, but I spent over 20 years working shuttle operations before I decided to jump over to aviation.

 

[dojetdriver]

I think this is a very valid question. Anybody remember the Scantron for flight time on the United App?

Across the top were the PIC colums, upper left was civil PIC in x amount of weight aircraft, then regular turbine PIC, and on the far right was Military multi crew PIC and single seat PIC. I think I remember a farther right hand colum that said Space Shuttle PIC.

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

Wow. I'M shocked. I had no idea there were this many geeks out there that eat this kind of stuff up.

Bon appetite...

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

I think this is a very valid question. Anybody remember the Scantron for flight time on the United App?

Across the top were the PIC colums, upper left was civil PIC in x amount of weight aircraft, then regular turbine PIC, and on the far right was Military multi crew PIC and single seat PIC. I think I remember a farther right hand colum that said Space Shuttle PIC.

Because in the last century a dinosaur airline used a "Scantron" form for flight time, this makes this question valid? Okie, dokie there Mr. "jet driver".

By the way, do you keep one of those "Scantrons" under the mattress for those special "home alone" afternoons? Is this how you know what is in the far right hand column?

 

[Angus]

shocked...at being at work with nothing to do? youve never been at work with some idle time on your hands?

dam man, try some valium, hell take two...they're small

I take it that drugs are your answer to your problems...?

No thanks Shakey... you seem to have experience with Valium... so you take'em... I don't need them.

Since that was such a stupid question, surely you must know the answer?

I don't know why p!ss is sometimes yellow....... and yet that would be a stupid question as well.

I take it you're working at the same gas station huh??

 

[yzf6]

How do the shuttle pilots log time? Do they only log time for certain portions of the flight? Anyone know?

That's a good question, most insurance companies these days require some space shuttle time before they'll insure you in anything from a King Air on up.

They log portions of the flight into 3 seperate logbook columns
Airplane multi engine
Lighter than air (this is most of their time)
Glider

 

[User546]

They log portions of the flight into 3 seperate logbook columns
Airplane multi engine
Lighter than air (this is most of their time)
Glider

Hey thats pretty clever!

Now lets talk about logging instrument time....

 

[jknight8907]

That's a good question, most insurance companies these days require some space shuttle time before they'll insure you in anything from a King Air on up.

They log portions of the flight into 3 seperate logbook columns
Airplane multi engine
Lighter than air (this is most of their time)
Glider

How could they log Lighter than Air time? The shuttle still weighs just as much, it's just constantly falling around the earth.

 

[dojetdriver]

Because in the last century a dinosaur airline used a "Scantron" form for flight time, this makes this question valid? Okie, dokie there Mr. "jet driver".

By the way, do you keep one of those "Scantrons" under the mattress for those special "home alone" afternoons? Is this how you know what is in the far right hand column?

Amazing how sarcasm just slips right past some people, isn't it?

I'll bet your crews have a rockin fun time with you on the overnights with your well rounded sense of humor there Mr. "FarginDooshbahg"

Did my post offend you in some personal way? Do you, by chance work for the dinosaur airline? Good grief, lighten the fu#k up will ya!

 

[DC8 Flyer]

That's a good question, most insurance companies these days require some space shuttle time before they'll insure you in anything from a King Air on up.

They log portions of the flight into 3 seperate logbook columns
Airplane multi engine
Lighter than air (this is most of their time)
Glider

No, no, not glider, more like a flying brick on approach.

I love that movie

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

Good grief, lighten the fu#k up will ya!

Well, being a Dooshbahg, that's just not in my genes. But I guess my "humor" was lost on you, as well. I guess that makes us even. Sort of. You're a "Jet Driver" and I'm just a FarginDooshbahg.

 

[Bluto]

Anyone care?

hehe, I have to go with Fargin and Angus on this one, there may be no such thing as a dumb question, but there is definitely such a thing as a LAME question.

 

[qmaster3]

I'd love to be Fargin, or Anuses F/O on a 4 day trip.

ARE WE THERE YET DADDY?

 

[Angus]

I'd love to be Fargin, or Anuses F/O on a 4 day trip.

ARE WE THERE YET DADDY?

At least you already KNOW that you'd be the "F/O". First thing you've gotten right today..

 

[qmaster3]

At least you already KNOW that you'd be the "F/O". First thing you've gotten right today..

I had you pegged for a TYPE A dick @ 6AM. Was I wrong?

 

[Angus]

I had you pegged for a TYPE A dick @ 6AM. Was I wrong?

By your comment I will assume you are an expert on d!ck at all hours of the day. So I'll leave all the d!ck wisdom to you there Puffball...... since you seem so inclined to share your "specialty" with us all here on these forums.

 

[User546]

And Getting Back Onto The Subject Of Astronauts Logging Flight Time....

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

I had you pegged for a TYPE A dick @ 6AM. Was I wrong?

angus is actually a she, see her earlier posts

 

[EagleRJ]

LOL at all of you!

 

[qmaster3]

angus is actually a she, see her earlier posts

Does her husband beat her? I would.

 

[minitour]

I don't know why p!ss is sometimes yellow....... and yet that would be a stupid question as well.

No such thing as a stupid question. And since you asked:

Kidneys do two things.
1. Filter out waste from the blood stream.
2. Keep the level of salt in the blood constant.
The major waste product from cells in the body is ammonia, and the major waste product from blood is a broken form of heme called biliruben. In the liver, each of these is converted into a less hazardous form: ammonia is converted to urea, and bilirubin is degraded to (be darned if I remember). Salt, water, and urea are all colorless, but the downgraded bilirubin (which come from degraded pigments) are yellow. So, if you drink a lot, your urine will be more clear, and if you get dehydrated, your urine will contain less water and be darker yellow.

Hope it helps.

-mini

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