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[Whine Lover]

" I'll retire from DAL as a narrowbody capt..."

Andy,

I am curious as to what sets of conditions you predicate that prognostication upon?

I have some friends over there who are just now seeing Captain after 9-10 years of service.

- When do you anticipate the left seat?

- How long to 65 ( ouch ) ?

- How might the SOC/Global Economy/Shrinking Industry/Possible Furloughs/Downgrades etc., etc., etc., affect your plans?

I'm really not trying to be a Dick ( for once ). I am just curious as to your thinking. Please don't stop being an optimist just because of bitter, twice-divorced, middle aged, multiply furloughed, unemployed, old, dumb-ass, former Captains such as myself.

However, always remember: " If you wanna' make God laugh, just go ahead and make some plans."

Gay smiley:

YKW

 

[andyd]

I agree with floppy and whine lover on the assumtion of future earnings/plans/career expectations and the like. My projections are based on NOT being furloughed (which i put my present prospects at about 50/50 for the next year). Upgrade time, barring any furloughs and not counting on any expansion or hiring...should be in around 2020 (strictly based on mandatory retirements and excluding JFK), I punch out in 2032 provided i keep passing a class I and re-current.

I am and have always been a glass 1/2 FULL kinda guy, take things in stride and try not to let the doom and gloom republicans...oops...naysayers depresss me with the constant "the sky is falling" negativity.

If we could opt out of SSN and get into a RRB pension with it kicking in at age 60 AND keep our 401k's and defined contributions in tack....would be GREAT. I just don't see us getting that without giving something up in the bargain.

 

[Whine Lover]

Fair enough. I hope you make it to 2032 at Delta as planned.

God knows, enough of us have been burned...it would be nice to see the tides turn again.

YKMKR

 

[Whine Lover]

" keeping 401k's and defined contributions..."

The beauty of a "B" Plan ( Defined Contribution )....It's yours, right now, and it's totally portable.

The Old "A" Plans ( Defined Benefit )..." We "promise" that, in some undefined time in the Future, we may ( or may not ) , pay you as defined in the fine print below. ( Unless of course, we go Bankrupt or cease to exist. )"

Ouch.

YKWE

 

[Flopgut]

Floppy, you got it right.

YKWHY

Thanks man! I appreciate it.

 

[MILF Hunter]

I agree with floppy and whine lover on the assumtion of future earnings/plans/career expectations and the like. My projections are based on NOT being furloughed (which i put my present prospects at about 50/50 for the next year). Upgrade time, barring any furloughs and not counting on any expansion or hiring...should be in around 2020 (strictly based on mandatory retirements and excluding JFK), I punch out in 2032 provided i keep passing a class I and re-current.

I am and have always been a glass 1/2 FULL kinda guy, take things in stride and try not to let the doom and gloom republicans...oops...naysayers depresss me with the constant "the sky is falling" negativity.

If we could opt out of SSN and get into a RRB pension with it kicking in at age 60 AND keep our 401k's and defined contributions in tack....would be GREAT. I just don't see us getting that without giving something up in the bargain.

My uncle loves his US Air retirement. Oh wait they took that from him. He sounded just like you 20 years ago. He could do better on his own with the help of his union.

Hope you don't get furloughed from Delta and you can walk away with your 10 trillion dollars.

 

[Just Peachy]

new world order.......

Wait till the current gov absorbs your 401k into the social security system and pays you 3%...... like the demos want to.:angryfire

 

[CDub]

Wait till the current gov absorbs your 401k into the social security system and pays you 3%...... like the demos want to.:angryfire

Not true... next.

 

[rtwo]

take things in stride and try not to let the doom and gloom republicans...oops...naysayers depresss me with the constant "the sky is falling" negativity.

If we could opt out of SSN TE]

Did you just dump on Republicans and hope to opt out of mandanted government retirement insurance in the same breath.

Can you explain your thinking on that one.

You are aware I'm sure that Government mandated withholding of 14% of your salary for social security is a gift from the first socialist despot to rule for life in America, even FDR, who happened to be a member of the Demo party. Social Security "benifits" were first taxed by WJC also a DEMo.