EagleRJ
Are we there yet?
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One trick is to use multiples of 60- whichever is equal or greater to your groundspeed- and convert it to miles. Example:
You are 125 miles from the airport (1000 MSL) at FL280, with a groundspeed of 450 Kts.
Next highest multiple of 60 = 480 (60*8) = Eight miles a minute.
Assuming 1000 FPM decent rate, 27 minutes equates to starting your decent 216 miles out.
...or 108 miles out at 2000 FPM,
...or 72 miles out at 3000 FPM.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of variables that will impact any linear system like this- changing wind, intermediate ATC level-offs, and having to level at 10,000 to slow down. Like others have said, it's hard to decend clean in most jets, and you should treat below 10,000 and inside 30 miles as being "in the pattern".
Most modern jets have VNAV/FMS decent planning, which is the best thing since sliced bread!
Math = bad!
You are 125 miles from the airport (1000 MSL) at FL280, with a groundspeed of 450 Kts.
Next highest multiple of 60 = 480 (60*8) = Eight miles a minute.
Assuming 1000 FPM decent rate, 27 minutes equates to starting your decent 216 miles out.
...or 108 miles out at 2000 FPM,
...or 72 miles out at 3000 FPM.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of variables that will impact any linear system like this- changing wind, intermediate ATC level-offs, and having to level at 10,000 to slow down. Like others have said, it's hard to decend clean in most jets, and you should treat below 10,000 and inside 30 miles as being "in the pattern".
Most modern jets have VNAV/FMS decent planning, which is the best thing since sliced bread!
Math = bad!