slip or skid?

[Flechas]

Who cares, just fly the pane first, keep the ball in the center and stay out of the trees!!!!

 

[Donsa320]

Who cares, just fly the pane first, keep the ball in the center and stay out of the trees!!!!

You are right, I wrote too much....I musta got bit by the avbug! <bg>

~DC

 

[Flechas]

You are right, I wrote too much....I musta got bit by the avbug! <bg>

~DC

Haha I was just kedding, it's all good learning! Although I rwally don't care too muc about slips or skids...

 

[airpix]

All this debate and I'm still trying to figure what to tell the student, use right rudder cause he's in a slip or a skid!

 

[Flechas]

I'd say slip because you don't have enough rudder, too much rudder is a skid.

 

[Jason_Pilot]

If the airplane was in a slip, then the ball would be to the outside of the turn.Yes?

If the ball was to the left on climbout then it would mean that the airplane's nose was skewed to the right making it uncoordinated. Even if there was a wind that was blowing across the runway in a direct crosswind this would still happen because you still did not correct for the P-Factor caused by the propeller and the wind would just blow you across the runway while you were still moving forward in a slip.

Just my guess, but I have only 66 hours so don't take it as the truth.

 

[airpix]

I'd say slip because you don't have enough rudder, too much rudder is a skid.

Now THAT'S an answer I can use! Thanks

 

[Singlecoil]

Fascinating thread. How about just telling the student he needs right rudder to counter torque, p-factor, gyroscopic effects, etc? Do you really need to bring slip/skid into needing right rudder in the climb? To me, it is easier to visualize slips/skids when discussing turns. I'm thinking you don't need to go into that much detail, which will probably just confuse the student at this point.

 

[Donsa320]

If the airplane was in a slip, then the ball would be to the outside of the turn.Yes?

No, the inside of the turn...Arg! Think about it, please. <grin>

~DC

 

[WizardPilot]

The WIND has no effect on what the ball instrument is displaying.

~DC

I concur.

 

[Jason_Pilot]

DOH!

Looks like I had everything backwards. Just disregard me post.

Outside=Skid
Inside=Slip

 

[airpix]

Fascinating thread. How about just telling the student he needs right rudder to counter torque, p-factor, gyroscopic effects, etc? Do you really need to bring slip/skid into needing right rudder in the climb? To me, it is easier to visualize slips/skids when discussing turns. I'm thinking you don't need to go into that much detail, which will probably just confuse the student at this point.

It's one of those students that asked the question, slip or skid and expects the correct answer from his instructor. The rest of the students are content with simply being told to step on the ball but on occassion one walks throught the door who is to intelligent for his own good!

 

[Singlecoil]

Oooohhh....one of those...I feel sorry for ya.