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airpix

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During climbout with the wings level and no rudder, ball's pegged to the right, is the aircraft in a slip, skid or neither?
 
airpix said:
During climbout with the wings level and no rudder, ball's pegged to the right, is the aircraft in a slip, skid or neither?

Well, I'd say...if the airplane is not holding a constant heading and the wings are level, then the ball is out because you are in a skidding turn to the left.

~DC
 
Skid is when the ball is outside opposite the direction of turn...I would also agree with Donsa320.
 
Center the ball with rudder trim. If you ever fly the MU-2 this will become habit. One side on the climb, the other on descent.
So to answer your ? maybe it's a skip or a slid?
 
Skid is when the ball is outside opposite the direction of turn...I would also agree with Donsa320.

Correct, in a turn. I think to answer airpix's question, we need to know if the heading is decreasing, or constant.

Decreasing = skid
Constant = slip
 
JB74 said:
Correct, in a turn. I think to answer airpix's question, we need to know if the heading is decreasing, or constant.

Decreasing = skid
Constant = slip

I'd say if the heading is CONSTANT with the wings level and the ball out to the right, then the ball instrument is not installed level. Only two forces can act on the ball...gravity and centrifigal. If there is no TURN then there is no centrifigal. If the wings are level, gravity would center the ball. So...the only way the ball can be out with wings LEVEL is in a skidding turn. (Or the if the ball race is installed cockeyed, <grin>)
Now if you stop that turn with wing down, its a slip. But he says the wings are level. It's a skid. IMHO.

~DC
 
Good info Donsa320. Man you have flown everything :)

Lets say that a 172 is climbing out with a 15kt crosswind, and you are holding constant heading with level wings (no crab angle, being blown to the left). How would the plane be coordinated then?

I have a feeling that is what airpix meant.
 
Daveman said:
Center the ball with rudder trim. If you ever fly the MU-2 this will become habit. One side on the climb, the other on descent.
So to answer your ? maybe it's a skip or a slid?

How about centering the ball with your feet, and using the trim to take away the control pressure? Better yet: How about using your feet to never let the ball move from the center as you change power settings?
 

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