Slick Citationshares Corporate Video

[johnsonrod]

Check out the Citationshares corporte video I found on their website:

http://www.citationshares.com/about/video.aspx

It's actually pretty well done - looks like they spent some money producing it. I believe it is aimed at both potential owners/customers and potential employees. And, of course, Citationshares pilots are the "best" in the industry.

Very interesting (but not surprising) that the lack of employee unions is highlighted - the meritocracy environment is seen as a big asset. The problem, in my opinion, is that a so-called meritocracy can often be influenced by subjective opinions in some cases (if you have one bad day or you upset a big wig who misunderstands something you say, your career could be on the line)... On the other side of the coin, it is true that most non-aviation jobs are subject to meritocracies and people need to do their jobs well to be promoted...

Again, the video is well done. Interested to hear what people have to say about it. Is it accurate or not? Do CS pilots really enjoy working there?

 

[Outta Here]

Gee I am surprised that you don't have a known facts about CS too. You sure had NJA and XOJET figured out. Do you even work for a FRAC or some regional the way your profile reads

 

[johnsonrod]

Gee I am surprised that you don't have a known facts about CS too. You sure had NJA and XOJET figured out. Do you even work for a FRAC or some regional the way your profile reads

Wow, you really get emotional, don't you. Last time I checked this is an information forum - right? Why should you care what I know and what I don't know? I am a regional pilot looking to leave and I am doing my homework... What does that involve? It takes research, networking and asking a lot of questions. I know people at the various outfits and I feel like I can form partial opinions based on many discussions.

Thanks for adding to this thread. You clearly are insecure about something because you would rather slam someone who is trying to provide some information to other people possibly interested in these companies vs. providing your own opinion about the subject at hand. I am curious to know more about Citationshares and I found their corporate video to be interesting - is that such a bad thing?????

Do you feel better now? Thanks for wasting our time. If you don't like what I have to say you can just avoid my threads or this website altogether. You have a choice.

 

[On Your Six]

Gee I am surprised that you don't have a known facts about CS too. You sure had NJA and XOJET figured out. Do you even work for a FRAC or some regional the way your profile reads

Lay off idiot. Gee, you have contributed a lot with your four posts on this website. Sounds like Johnsonrod has some good questions he would like to get answered and you are not helping.

As for the corporate video (back to the original topic), yeah, it was a standard corporate video with the sales "spin" you would expect. Not bad. Best pilots in the business? I thought CS was having problems filling their newhire training classes?

Another issue with CS is the lack of any transcon-capable aircraft (beyond the Sovereign which I doubt makes too many European trips). Because of its relationship with Cessna it can't offer other brands of more capable aircraft and it therefore limits what owners can do for certain trips. Cessna's product line alone is restrictive while Netjets, Flexjet and Flight Options offer the full range of capabilities with their fleets.

What does a CS owner have to do if trips to Hawaii or Europe are desired and a Sovereign won't work? Does CS have a relationship with a 135 operator that can provide bigger aircraft?

 

[400A]

Lay off idiot. Gee, you have contributed a lot with your four posts on this website. Sounds like Johnsonrod has some good questions he would like to get answered and you are not helping.

As for the corporate video (back to the original topic), yeah, it was a standard corporate video with the sales "spin" you would expect. Not bad. Best pilots in the business? I thought CS was having problems filling their newhire training classes?

Another issue with CS is the lack of any transcon-capable aircraft (beyond the Sovereign which I doubt makes too many European trips). Because of its relationship with Cessna it can't offer other brands of more capable aircraft and it therefore limits what owners can do for certain trips. Cessna's product line alone is restrictive while Netjets, Flexjet and Flight Options offer the full range of capabilities with their fleets.

What does a CS owner have to do if trips to Hawaii or Europe are desired and a Sovereign won't work? Does CS have a relationship with a 135 operator that can provide bigger aircraft?

True, but it does allow its marketing group a place to showcase ONLY Cessna aircraft. I think that is a large part of the CS mission. Start them with a share, and move them to a whole.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Wow!!!! Very nice video. Well done!!!

I will say that I believe CS pilots are some of the sharpest dress pilots I have seen.

I wish many of our guys here at NJA would wear their uniforms in such detail.

 

[Diesel]

Let me guess the Hoffman's are flying from HPN to PBI.

 

[CA1900]

Let me guess the Hoffman's are flying from HPN to PBI.

Hahahahaha...

(That's in Flaaaaaaahrida for those out there not familiar... )

 

[DO-82 driver]

"....Ida, bring the fruit!!!!!!"

"Come on, Sol is waiting for us!!"

 

[Hung Start]

"sigh,,,,, oi vay,,,,"

What would Henny Youngman do about this?



Hung

 

[DO-82 driver]

I always wondered how you spelled that.

We never learned that in Catacism.

 

[RCA]

Lay off idiot. Gee, you have contributed a lot with your four posts on this website. Sounds like Johnsonrod has some good questions he would like to get answered and you are not helping.

As for the corporate video (back to the original topic), yeah, it was a standard corporate video with the sales "spin" you would expect. Not bad. Best pilots in the business? I thought CS was having problems filling their newhire training classes?

Another issue with CS is the lack of any transcon-capable aircraft (beyond the Sovereign which I doubt makes too many European trips). Because of its relationship with Cessna it can't offer other brands of more capable aircraft and it therefore limits what owners can do for certain trips. Cessna's product line alone is restrictive while Netjets, Flexjet and Flight Options offer the full range of capabilities with their fleets.

What does a CS owner have to do if trips to Hawaii or Europe are desired and a Sovereign won't work? Does CS have a relationship with a 135 operator that can provide bigger aircraft?

Good point. Just like the merit system is not for everyone the CS buisness model is not for everyone.
Thats what makes this operation unique and hopefuly successful.

 

[johnsonrod]

Good point. Just like the merit system is not for everyone the CS buisness model is not for everyone.
Thats what makes this operation unique and hopefuly successful.

I suspect that Cessna's proposed bigger transcontinental aircraft (on the drawing board) would be of significant interest to CS down the line for that very reason.

I am sure some of CS's customers would have international travel requirements (probably Jack Nicklaus among others). To follow up on On Your Six's question, what do those CS owners do when they need to get to Hawaii or somewhere outside of the Sovereign's typical range? Does CS outsource that flying to TAG (former part-owner of CS) or another 135 operator?

 

[Going2Golf]

You can cover everything in only 5 days of Indoc?

Even if it is "pretty intense"... Doing CPR and Pool alone would knock out a day..so you have 4 days left to cover everything else...
Or only 3 days since one day has to be for the written ??

 

[guido411]

Did anybody notice a little more than halfway through the video that the "best pilots in the industry" couldn't keep that CJ on the centerline of a narrow runway?

 

[theskyking]

Funny. I was wondering if anyone else saw that. A little off to the right.

 

[On Your Six]

And I thought those CJ3s weren't so difficult to fly... Nice Pro Line 21 system.

Just curious, what airplanes are recent newhires starting in understanding it could be any fleet? CJ3? XLS? Is the CJ1 still an option for newhires?

 

[GSXR600]

Did anybody notice a little more than halfway through the video that the "best pilots in the industry" couldn't keep that CJ on the centerline of a narrow runway?

or just about 3/4 of the video after the standars cptn is talking there is a FLEX TAIL on the background N259FX......uuhhhhh!!! way of market it the company...........UPS!!!!

 

[Stinkbug]

I agree with the original poster; I think it's a pretty well-done promotional video. Those of you nit-picking it to death are obviously looking for flaws and must be pretty bored. But that's just my opinion

 

[Stinkbug]

or just about 3/4 of the video after the standars cptn is talking there is a FLEX TAIL on the background N259FX......uuhhhhh!!! way of market it the company...........UPS!!!!

I'm just glad they didn't put you in charge of writing the script

 

[johnsonrod]

I agree with the original poster; I think it's a pretty well-done promotional video. Those of you nit-picking it to death are obviously looking for flaws and must be pretty bored. But that's just my opinion

I agree that the video is well done and that it is directly aimed at both potential owners and potential employees. Interesting that the word "meritocracy" is mentioned 20 times in the video - we all get their point. However, not all pilot applicants feel good about an absolute meritocracy - some want the protections inherent in a seniority system (for the right or wrong reasons). I guess the "best" pilots in that group will go elsewhere (probably to Netjets and its union if they still desire a fractional lifestyle).

 

[Sparse]

I suspect that Cessna's proposed bigger transcontinental aircraft (on the drawing board) would be of significant interest to CS down the line for that very reason.

I am sure some of CS's customers would have international travel requirements (probably Jack Nicklaus among others). To follow up on On Your Six's question, what do those CS owners do when they need to get to Hawaii or somewhere outside of the Sovereign's typical range? Does CS outsource that flying to TAG (former part-owner of CS) or another 135 operator?

Answer to number one. Jack has his own G-V.

TAG takes care of most of the international demands from the owners.

And to the bozo that made the comment about the Hoffmans, they are actually very nice people and what you saw is what you get.

 

[theskyking]

I agree with the original poster; I think it's a pretty well-done promotional video. Those of you nit-picking it to death are obviously looking for flaws and must be pretty bored. But that's just my opinion

I agree, it is a nice looking video. And I wasn't looking for flaws. Seems a video touting the best pilots in the industry would use some file footage that showed the airplane at least near the center line. Not doubting the skill of the pilots who work there, just thought the editing might be a little better.

 

[Diesel]

And to the bozo that made the comment about the Hoffmans, they are actually very nice people and what you saw is what you get.

Yeah that was the joke.

 

[D8Ball]

Dang! What's up with CS giving Paul Bradley so much time on the video??? You would think that he is one of only four pilots there!! It is a good video though. Well produced!